Looks pretty good considering the smudging from photo copying. It has already been demostrated that the IBM Selecctric Composer does not match up with Word processor's text.
Posted on 09/11/2004 5:56:56 PM PDT by The Bandit
I will say of course that the existence of 3 different versions is a serious mystery.
Are you suggesting that Kerry made a paper airplane out of it and sailed it over the White House fence??? Maybe he just wadded it up and threw it over... littering.
Same here. The circumstances of Kerry's odd year of discharge in 1978, the DD214 and subsequent DD215 have come under question many times. That's why this is the only document I took a look at to see if there was anything odd.
We also already know there is one significant error in his paperwork unlikely to have been made by the military, the "Silver Star with Combat V" which doesn't exist.
It may be useful though still to apply what has been learned thus far. It may help determine that things were added years later. I think it only makes sense to double check that nothing from Kerrys web page was done with Word certainly. I think it is a good excercise. The experts are pouring over the Killian docs now. It will only be a few days and a consensus will be reached. It think we know what it will be. I see no harm in a little exam of Kerrys records as well.
Looks pretty good considering the smudging from photo copying. It has already been demostrated that the IBM Selecctric Composer does not match up with Word processor's text.
Errors are one thing. False reporting is another. Forgery is still another thing altogether, a completely different level of deception.
Look, the documents are perfectly centered and both margines -- left and right -- are straight.
Excuse me... you are insisting it is almost "a certainty" that two clerks would have typed a DD214, yet you admit you have absolutely no experience in the military to make that claim.
I told you I hope this gets shot down... but I'd rather it was from someone who has a clue what they are talking about, thanks.
It's a good point and harmless to take a quick look. We already know that someone in his campaign or supportive of it is willing to engage in forgery :-(
OH come on. If I told you that UFO's landed in my backyard and conducted experiments on my pet cat, you wouldn't feel the need to consult UFO experts to dismiss my claims as absurd.
That's what we're talking about here. Everyone now has the "forgery bug" and they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off looking for suspicious stuff. Well, I'm sorry, but the simple fact that a form was obviously filled in using two different typewriters doesn't even pass the smell test.
Yes, your feelings are quite clear.
I'll wait until someone who knows about DD214's cares to comment, though, thanks.
No.
I was looking through some similar documents. Here is an example of a pre-printed form with the dates and name filled in by typewriter, circa 1978:
Here's a citation, typed on basically a piece of fancy paper:
Here's a more modern document, where the name and description are done simultaneously using a program:
Of course, a Silver Star is a significant award, which in 1972 may have merited the extra cost of a professional print job.
I don't know whether it would have been normal for citations to be typeset or engraved, but it would certainly have been possible.
Indeed, I would think that in 1969 the only ways to produce a good looking citation would have been typesetting or engraving, and so that's what they would have done. In 1986, when the re-issue was produced, a word processor with a daisy wheel printer would have produced output cheaply which would have rivaled the quality of anything except hand typesetting or engraving in the late 1960's or early 1970's. It does not seem implausible that in 1986 a word-processed document would have been "suitable for framing" while in 1969-1970 the only way to get such a document would have been to hand typeset or engrave it.
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