Posted on 09/08/2004 12:43:43 PM PDT by tbrowdy
I feel as though they should ban smoking in all night clubs, so that people can go and enjoy themselves without having to smell like smoke after walking out of the night club or having the fear of second hand smoke later in life. Even if they do sell alcohol, set aside a place outside for the smokers to smoke. Over half of the club do not smoke, if you were to do apoll on the people that were in the club and put all non-smokers to one side and the smokers to another side, you would have a great deal of non-smokers on one side and a handfull on the other side. But witht hat handfull of smokers, it still makes the area of the club which is closed in fullo of smoke that we have to breathe. So don't just pass a law for the bars, and resturants, pass it for all places. We need to get on the ball liek California, you can't smoke there and it has not hurt their businesses. Something to think about
Anyone who is tempted to believe this should check HawkeyeLonewolf's other threads. This is only one of three threads he's currently involved in, attacking people in all three threads. Mason's can't be Christians in one of those threads, and in another one he is the only one who understands the Word of God and anyone who doesn't agree with him is wrong.
And yes, I've been dealing with the issue just as long as you if not longer
You've got no clue what you are talking about.
-- simply not on this site.
I said nothing about dealing with it on the internet, this site or anywhere else. In fact none of the sites I have ever visited existed back when I started dealing with the issue.
The vast majority of the paid professional anti-smokers have not even been dealing with it as long as I have.........and the main difference between them and I, is they are paid to do it, I am not. Of course there are many other differences between them and me, including their socialistic beliefs, distortion of the English language and the dictionary, and their support of gay marriage and gay adoption (There is one that claims he and his "partner" are better parents than my husband and I bcause they are not smokers.)
I don't pontificate, I don't wear my religious beliefs on my shirt sleeve, I do not engage in personal attacks, I post on dozens of threads on different subjects everyday, and I have never even received an admonishment from a Moderator here (let alone get a time-out.)
If you don't care for the opinions of those who regularly post on smoking/tobacco threads I can only suggest you stay away from them.
This is completely incorrect.
I am involved in MANY threads today and everyday. And I've attacked no one in any of these threads mentioned.
Where did I say that a Mason cannot be a Christian?
And I never claim to be the only one to understand the Word of God. NEVER. Nothing is farther from the truth. I do however show where some teachers have teachings that ARE opposed to God's Word.
Again, I've been addressing this issue for many years. Sorry you think you hold the exclusive rights to it.
And you DID personally attack, even in this message when you said "You've got no clue what you are talking about." You need to address the ISSUE, not the person.
Yes, he has informed me of that regarding property rights and smoking bans on more than one occasion.
I don't agree with him, so using his logic - he is wrong.
Unfortunately.
If you have been addressing this issue for more than 17 years you may have a point regarding you claim you may havebeen addressing it as long or longer than I have. Hint - I've been dealig with it MORE than 17 years. And I have never claimed exclusive rights to anything except my private property.
You need to understand the difference between taking issue with the messenger and the message.
My comment was in regard to what you stated, not you.
This is not true. Again.
I've said you're WRONG in saying all anti-smoking positions are liberal. Period. I've provided a perfectly sound conservative anti-smoking position and been called all manner of names.
I have yet to read a sound conservative anti-smoker psoition regarding private property rights from you.
Then you need to do a search, because as I said in the very beginning, this has all been hashed out already.
You may not like it, but I am 100% conservative and 100% for anti-smoking laws. THere is no contradiction. You can personally not like it, but there it is. Your choice of labels does not affect what I am.
Done. You've not been honest in this dicussion, choosing to attack me and misstate my positions and comments. Fine. Your call.
I have a very difficult time equating a call for more government regulations with a conservative point of view. To me the anti-smoker conservative would be talking with the proprietor of his favored establishments regarding their policy on smoking as opposed to seeking increased government control.
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To: The Louiswu
Washington is troubling. He claimed to be a Christian, but was a Mason as well which conflicts with Christianity...
6 posted on 09/08/2004 5:10:37 PM EDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
And that's your view.
Mine is different and just as valid. The health and well-being of the public must be protected from the selfish rights of a few. We have countless public safety laws that promote the "general welfare" and this is another among them.
No more discussion on this. Again, it was discussed to death on other threads. I've stated again my completely conservative view. You've stated YOUR conservative view. Both are conservative positions. Don't like it. Scream, fuss, whine, whatever tactic you wish to take. It doesn't invalidate my position -- and YOUR saying it does does not make it so.
Thank you for proving MY point. As can be seen I never said a Mason cannot be a Christian in phrase OR in implication. Someone COULD be both, however Masonry the religion conflicts with Christianity in many ways.
Is your real name John Flippin Kerry?
I have not flip-flopped but been consistent in all my posts. Sorry, but this site isn't about me.
Thanks for linking his own words back at him. :-)
It shows everyone else how he flip flops, but he still doesn't seem to get it. Amazing! LOL
Go try LP...you'll be much happier over there,than you will be here.
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