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Went to jail for nothing
20Aug04 | Darren Morrison

Posted on 08/20/2004 11:19:31 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake

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To: Patriot32

Clap Clap Clap Clap!!!!!!!!

Notice how this guy has absolutely no problem driving 20mph over the speed limit, with his son in the car, down a blind hill?

But it's all the cops fault!!!


41 posted on 08/20/2004 11:43:01 AM PDT by Brytani (A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
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To: wideawake

While I agree he should not have been speeding , to me it shouldn't factor in. Eventually they would have picked him up at his house or where ever. Bad things happen . It amazes me how many posts I see here that "we are cops, we answer to no one, we aren't accountable" Well, I have news for you. LE answers to the public and if it was me I would get to the bottom of this and stir the waters as much as I could. Some of us get comfort from Gods word. If this causes a cop to get aggrivated and be late for his coffee break, tough. I know a lot of excellent , caring police officers but you give the picture that they are untouchable and that's not right. We should not have to be fearful or afraid of them and tip toe on egg shells.


42 posted on 08/20/2004 11:43:16 AM PDT by CindyDawg (paragraphs and spell check omit ted due to disability slams.)
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To: dead

If the cop had also been dyslexic, he'd have only gotten written up for going 2 MPH over the limit, and probably just gotten a ticket.


43 posted on 08/20/2004 11:43:43 AM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: Just another Joe
To put not too bright a point on it, they don't care. ....

Wrong, there's nothing a Police Officer can do and to express sympathy or understanding runs the risk of making matters worse. I'm sure any veteran can tell you of some rookie mistake he made where he tried to show that he cared and had it blow up in his face. You learn not to do that twice. Don't confuse professional distance with lack of empathy.

And, btw, this poster says he went to court on the wrong day. From the sound of it he never bothered to correct his mistake. What did he expect?

44 posted on 08/20/2004 11:44:23 AM PDT by wtc911 (I have half a Snickers...it was given to me by a CIA guy as we went into Cambodia)
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To: alisasny
"May I start a prayer thread here now for Rattlesnake who is clearly in need of deep prayers."

I that a statement, or a question?

Do you believe you need our permission to pray?

Are you unable to pray silently, wherever you are?

45 posted on 08/20/2004 11:44:51 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: RMrattlesnake
The speed is a separate issue. That just happened to be the trigger causing the gov't to pay attention to you in particular and run the background check. Don't go that fast (just as I shouldn't have this morning).

The arrest was the result of the background check. The cop did his job of putting you in a box until a judge sorted things out. Sounds like he and the lockup crew did their jobs correctly - maybe not nicely, but considering who they usually have to deal with they've understandably lost the helpful/polite edge.

The problem is the bureaocracy breakdown, pointing to the fallicy of the ID-advocating "where are your papers?" crowd. The system sounds great - until something doesn't comply with the process. Someone dropped the ball, a paper was lost, a bit twitched ... something minor went wrong, causing you a major hassle which will haunt you for the rest of your life. Hence our Founding Fathers' insistence on freedom. There's a major problem when someone is declared a law-breaker by a paper-pusher who fails to notify you of the issue (despite having your address), leaving you to find out about it the hard way.

46 posted on 08/20/2004 11:48:08 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Prime Choice
"If money is an issue for you (and an attorney thinks you have a case), find an attorney who will take the case Pro Bono."

BWWWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

47 posted on 08/20/2004 11:49:40 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: wtc911
Wrong, there's nothing a Police Officer can do

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there.
There are things a police officer can do. I've seen them do it, for people they know personally.
They will not go to the extra trouble for people they do NOT know personally.

48 posted on 08/20/2004 11:49:41 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: aft_lizard

yea but the clerk was not doing there job. i never said the cop was not doing there job but they could have made some phone calls and had this matter resovled.


49 posted on 08/20/2004 11:51:24 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: Patriot32
You forgot to tell him..that if he was looking for "Sympathy"
it's between Shiite and Syphilis in the Webster's
:)
50 posted on 08/20/2004 11:51:25 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: RMrattlesnake
It's not up to the cops to fix your mistake. They don't care if you wrote the day down wrong. Nobody does...
51 posted on 08/20/2004 11:55:07 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: G.Mason

What am I? Flypaper for buttheads?


52 posted on 08/20/2004 11:56:01 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
well, here in VA, that would be called "reckless driving", an arrestable offence (though they hardly will unless you are beligerent)

Here in California, it's called "the flow of traffic."

Keep in mind this was a speed trap, which means there is a 90% chance it was located somewhere where it is safe to drive 65MPH and everyone else on the road was going that speed.

53 posted on 08/20/2004 11:56:48 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: cspackler

You are reading between the lines I never plead guilty to anything I hit a person in defence of an my child. The person was attacking my child phyically and I punch this person in the face. That is what the whole case was all about tell me you would stand there and let someone attack your child and do nothing. So don't thank you are so high and mighty. If you attacked my son but your bottom dallor you will see stars if you are in arms reach of me. What did that created this whole mess was protect my family. I did what was right under GOD.


54 posted on 08/20/2004 11:58:37 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: RMrattlesnake

Making phone calls and saying "Hey, this guy I just pulled over and arrested says his warrant is a mistake. Will you look at it for me and tell me if it is or not? Thanks. Yes, I'll hold" is not their job - they probably hear that from every person with an outstanding warrant.

They'd spend all their time on the phone, and never have time for anything else...


55 posted on 08/20/2004 11:58:50 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Real Men Like Bush)
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To: RMrattlesnake
Hey, you've done fine.

I don't think there is anything you can do to be compensated for what happened to you. The police officers acted on the information they had at their disposal at the time, and this was clearly all the result of an innocent mistake.

You should be thankful that everything has been cleared up (I assume it has been), and make sure your son understands exactly what happened (so as to avoid alarming him).

P.S. If you have dyslexia and you can read/write this well, then there's nothing to be ashamed of -- you're a champ!

56 posted on 08/20/2004 11:59:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: CindyDawg
While I agree he should not have been speeding , to me it shouldn't factor in.

As others have pointed out, he was going 20 mph over the limit. In most locales that's considered reckless driving and is an arrestable offense. Add to that the fact that he had failed to show for a court date.

His excuse for not showing for the court date, to a police officer, sounds much the same as a "dog ate my homework" excuse for a teacher.

And to be frank, it is not the officer's job to make sure that our friend's story about rescheduling his court date is true. I would be pretty upset at the cops if criminals were able to talk their way out of failures to appear when they were pulled over. The cop isn't thinking "hey I hope I don't offend this poor, honest citizen" - he's thinking "this f*cking lunatic is driving 20 over the limit - if his record says he's supposed to be off the street I believe it."

What if our friend got off with a warning, then went back to driving like a maniac a few miles down the road and killed some kid trying to cross the street? Then everyone would be blaming the cop for not taking him and going by the book.

Some of us get comfort from Gods word.

I know I do. In fact I get so much comfort from His Word that I have large portions of it committed to memory. You don't need to have a physical Bible in your hand to get comfort from prayer and reflecting on the Scriptures.

If this causes a cop to get aggrivated and be late for his coffee break, tough.

So you think that "turn the other cheek" thing is pretty much a load of bunkum, huh? That's an interesting perspective on Christian witness.

The fact is, our friend was acting extremely irresponsibly and I hope he takes this as an expensive lesson that (a) he should take court appearances very seriously and (b) he shouldn't drive recklessly.

57 posted on 08/20/2004 12:00:17 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: dead
From his profile:

"I have 2 sons that we home school. "

I don't see any of those kids winning a spelling bee (or 'beeb', even)

58 posted on 08/20/2004 12:02:06 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: RMrattlesnake
Mistakes happen! You should feel LUCKY you weren't about 200 miles east! Read this:

http://thekansan.com/stories/071904/fro_0719040016.shtml

"Authorities in northwest Kansas say no charges will be filed against a former police chief in the fatal shooting of a man he was trying to take into custody,,,

,,, shot in December 2003 when former St. Francis Police Chief Jason Ryan and Kansas Bureau of Investigation agents tried to apprehend him.

Cheyenne County Attorney Kevin N. Berens announced Friday that Schwab's death was found to have been an accident.

Schwab,,, was shot when Ryan's handgun went off while he was struggling with Schwab,,,"



The story behind the news? The gun used in the fatal shooting was NOT authorized to be used for Police work! And - Schwab was unarmed and already on the ground with about four law enforcement officials present!

",,, no charges will be filed,,, "
59 posted on 08/20/2004 12:02:58 PM PDT by RonHolzwarth (History repeats itself - first as tragedy, then as farce" - Karl Marx)
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To: RMrattlesnake

awww.. poor little baby.. minding your own business speeding down the road. looking to kill your child? bet he loves dad! do society a favor and take a drive by yourself, make sure you stay at the 45mph speed limit, and drive into a tree.


60 posted on 08/20/2004 12:03:03 PM PDT by phxaz (w: 7 minutes of composure. kerry: 37 minutes of paralysis.)
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