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Posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
Eleventh Thread: Wedding Edition: The Hobbit Hole XI - No One Admitted Except on Wedding Business!
New verse:
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Upon the hearth the fire is red, |
Still round the corner there may wait |
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Yeah, that's the panel I'm thinking of--thanks for reminding me! Okay, I dug out my reprint of that issue--here's the text:
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A Scientific Explanation of Clark Kent's Amazing Strength
Kent had come from a planet whose inhabitants' physical structure was millions of years advanced of our own. Upon reaching maturity, the people of his race became gifted with titanic strength--
--incredible? No! For even today on our world exist creatures with super-strength! The lowly ant can support weights hundreds of times its own. The grasshopper leaps what to man would be the space of several city blocks.
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Of course they didn't work out the actual mathematics of how this would work for a humanoid :) That was the original idea, though.
In Zero Hour, Hal Jordan had gone insane, killed the Guardians and stolen their power, and was trying to undo the effects of the Crisis; that is, he was trying to recreate the Infinite Earths. The Zero Hour story finished with Hal being defeated; but it was shown later that he didn't die as he appeared to. And sometime later, apparently not connected to the above, Hypertime we introduced to the DC Universe. Sooooo... some fans have speculated that Hal actually succeeded in undoing the Crisis, and thus Hypertime now exists.
DC has not admitted to that, so far as I know! ;)
"ever notice how, in movies, at night you can see just as well as during the day, only everything's blue?"
LOL! I've also noticed on certain moody shows like "X-Files", everything is dark all the time, even during the day!
Another thing is that in comics you can carry on a conversation even while you're in the middle of a fistfight, thanks to the wonder of dialogue balloons! :)
Things like that don't bother me, usually. Like, I'm not one of the SF fans who gripe about how in "Star Wars" you can hear the X-wings and TIE fighters even though sound doesn't travel through the vacuum of space. To me it's justifiable to do some stuff like that if it makes the book/film more aesthetically pleasing. The trick is just not to get so unrealistic that it seems overtly silly, so there have to be some rules operant and whatever happens has to obey those rules. The rules can be extremely implausible as long as they're followed and the story can still get away with it. For instance once you accept the premise of Superman's invulnerability--or the unbreakability of Wolverine's claws, to take another example--it becomes fun to see what plots you can come up with from that premise.
He thought through that premise a little *too* thoroughly. . .
That makes my head spin!
The only DC multiple Earth I was aware of before I read "Crisis" was Earth-2. Of course there were also the series set in future history, like the Legion of Superheroes in the 30th century, which is another complicating factor. Plus they tried to integrate stuff from non-DC series, like bringing Captain Marvel in.
Incidentally, I'd need to look up the link, but there's currently a project trying to construct a timeline inter-relating all the various Marvel series, i.e., what was going on with the FF during the events of "Avengers" #100, etc. It's a huge labor but pretty interesting.
I think I've run across the Marvel Timeline project... I agree, it's pretty cool! But I think it becomes pretty much impossible after the mid-90s, and the travesty that was Onslaught.
You heading up my way next week?
I only buy Birkies anymore. I look for them on sale, and when I find something I like, I get them! I even got some Birkie hiking shoes for our trip to Montana last year. They were great!
I didn't even know DC adopted any Charlton heroes, LOL! I never read Charlton much, but looking at the covers in the store as a kid my first impression was that they looked like the cheesiest of all superheroes--Long Underwear to the nth power. Fawcett heroes were fun.
What happened with Onslaught? I missed a lot of what Marvel did in the 90s.
Hey, SuziQ, how are you this evening?
Dylan was strange, though, he said two words the whole night. At the end of the night, he said "Thank You"; that's ALL!
I'm so proud of you! ;o)
The Charlton heroes were Capt. Atom, The Question, Blue Beetle, Judomaster, and Peacemaker, among others. DC bought them in 1985, the same year Crisis came out.
Comic trivia: Alan Moore originally wrote "Watchmen" using the Charlton Heroes, which DC had just bought. However, DC vetoed that idea, since they wanted to integrate those heroes into the mainline DC Universe via the Crisis. So Moore redid "Watchmen" with thinly-veiled analogues to the Charlton Heroes.
What happened with Onslaught?
"Onslaught" was horrible. I didn't read it past the first few issues. It pretty much killed my interest in the Marvel Universe at the time. Basically, Prof. X subconsciously created an unstoppable villain (named Onslaught) who, in a huge multi-issue crossover, killed every hero in the Marvel Universe (no, I'm not kidding.) Franklin Richards managed to save some of the more important heroes by hiding them in a pocket universe, leading to badly written and unrecognizable versions of Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America. After about a year, Marvel realized the insanity of this (the low sales helped) and restored the regular Marvel Universe.
I'm fine. Just catching up on the last few days' posts. I'm fixing to slather sunburn gel on and go to bed. We have to leave tomorrow morning. *sniff*
What about "The Changeling" Bear, how was that?
Interesting tidbit on Watchmen. I always assumed it was a veiled JLA until you mentioned that.
Onslaught does sound horrible. Who was responsible for writing that and what editor let it happen?
"Just catching up on the last few days' posts."
*That* sounds like a funkle! :)
Have a good night, Suzi! I didn't catch where you were going tomorrow, but wherever it is I hope you have a safe trip!
The Changeling was pretty good, IMHO. I liked the concept of a magic-world and a techonology-world, and a balance having to be maintained between the two.
Zelazny had planned it as the first book of a trilogy. He wrote the second book, titled Madwand, but he never wrote the third book! However, I think "The Changeling" works OK as a stand-alone book, if you don't want to read the second book.
You know, I don't remember! I think my subconcious is mercifully blocking my memory, LOL! I could probably Google it up though...
But, I need to be getting to bed. Maybe I'll Google in the morning. ;)
Have a good night!
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