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To: SunkenCiv

I wonder about the similarity between the TRojan war and the other, older, ARyanic epic, the Mahabharata.


15 posted on 02/03/2005 5:23:43 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos
Professor Schliemann had already begun to suspect that the stories of the Trojan War were limned upon an Atlantean background. While excavating in Troy he had found, in the treasure house of Priam, an exquisitely wrought bronze vase bearing the inscription: From King Chronos [no relation] of Atlantis. Ten years later, while wandering through the Louvre in Paris, he came across its mate, which had come to light in Tiahuanaca, on the South American continent. If, before he died in 1890, this intuitive man had been fortunate enough to read Isis Unveiled and The Secret Doctrine, he might have learned that the Trojan War coincided with the cycle of events described in the Mahabharata, and that Homer's Iliad was but a copy of the Ramayana.

But seriously... I don't see it. While I don't reject the idea that the Mahabharata records (in its way) a real war of some duration, it was geographically and temporally in a very different place. The Trojan War has had its setting changed by different modern writers, including Edo Nyland's (borrowed) idea that it took place in the Scottish archipelago.
16 posted on 02/03/2005 7:33:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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more related...
The Mahabharata: A Family Chart
by Gloria L. Floren
MiraCosta College
BHARATA: from "Bharat"=Indian; King Bharata. KRISHNA: Avatar of Vishnu, god of preservation who takes on human form when chaos threatens; serves as charioteer for Arjuna and delivers the Bhagavad Gita. SHIVA: God of destruction (also creation and preservation); provides the ultimate weapon to Arjuna. GANESHA: elephant-headed Hindu god of education and learning, knowledge and wisdom, literature and the fine arts, Lord of success, prosperity, and peace. and "good luck"; scribe for the Mahabharata, recited by Vyasa: "Listen to stories: It’s always pleasant and sometimes it improves you." VYASA: Krishna Dvaipaiyana Vyasa, 4th century B.C.E. Written text attributed to him. (Vyasa means "collector.") According to legend, Vyasa and Ganesha worked together to get the text fully recited and written down; the epic is said to have been originally written with a tusk. HISTORY: The events (the war) in the epic is based on a historical event, just as the Iliad portrays an actual war (Trojan War). The date of the Bharata war has been variously set at 5000 BCE, 3000 BCE, 3138 BCE (the Indus Valley Civilization dates are c. 3200-2000 BCE). ORAL TRADITION: It is believed that all the ancient stories, songs, and epics were preserved through recitation, performance, storytelling (in the oral tradition) before the technology of writing was invented.


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17 posted on 02/03/2005 7:37:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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