The GUILD 7-11: What happens when you run out of skin?

[mountaineer]

It makes sense, but even many Republican or supposedly "conservative" voters have fallen into the mindset of the government "doing" for them what they ought to be doing for themselves, from health care and prescription drugs to contributing to worthy charities.

[daisyscarlett]

Oh my indeed...that item about Michael Jackson, it is so repulsive I cannot even repeat it.

Iowa Hawk on Sandy Burglar...TROUSERGATE UPDATE

[Timeout]

I agree with both your statements. But I was asking about the way we conservatives get that message across. I believe calling someone a liberal has lost its punch.

It's been 15 years since our success in the Dukakis campaign, turning liberal into a slur. A whole new generation wasn't around when we taught that lesson so well. And there are a lot of people who weren't politically attuned back then, but now are. Whether because of the internet or 9/11, a lot of new people are paying attention.

I think we need to find a way of making those newcomers as leary of the liberal mindset as their predecessors were...and remain. Just saying "liberal, liberal, liberal" (ala Bob Dole) doesn't work anymore.

[Endeavor]

David Gergen is now officially the Tariq Aziz of the Clinton Administration - Ann Coulter on H&C tonight. I had to clean the keyboard.

[Endeavor]

You are right on the liberal thing.

[Iowa Granny]

Today was one of those days when you can fry an egg on the sidewalk in Iowa.

Bush's speech today was 'in the round'. I had a seat where I would have been about 3 ft from him if I'd kept the seat.

I've been fighting a serious sinus infection along with some upper resp. complications. I had no more gotten seated when I had a severe coughing spasam. When I get too warm, it happens. Once I had settled myself down, I got up and moved to the back of the room where I could get out if it occurred while the Prez was speaking.

Security wasn't nearly as tight here as it was in Dubuque. When they looked in my purse, they told me I would have to give up my cup of ice, which I was carrying to help sooth my throat in the event of a coughing spell. The fella let me continue but warned me that someone else would be taking it before I went inside. Nobody did. Thank goodness. I used some of the ice to literally rub on my neck and throat to cool off and settle my cough down.

The 'in the round' was interesting. Once his speech was over, he opened it up for questions. Most of the questions were rather pointless. "Do you like being president?" (from a kid). Stuff like that. One person didn't get to ask a question so shouted it out, instead: "Do you think Ambassador Wilson lied?" GW's response: Ask the press what they think.

I had left a slice of cheese in a baggie in the car when I went inside. When I came back out,,, it was liquid.

I knew a 'back way' out of the parking area and headed out quickly ahead of the crowd. I wanted to go to the Amana Colonies on the way home so headed that way,,, the route takes me past the Eastern Iowa Airport. People were parked along the side of the road waiting to wave at the motorcade. I felt a twinge of guilt as I whizzed on by. I would have like to have stopped to wave, too. But I had a bunch of stuff to do before my trip to Seattle next week.

Suddenly I realized I was the only car on the road to the airport,,, except for a police car following me. I passed the entrance to the airport and the police car pulled in. I must have been the last car allowed onto that route before they closed it.

The internals polls must be showing that Iowa is winable. Cheney was here last week, now GW & the girls. I'd guess they'll be back, unless the polls show it isn't necessary.

[mountaineer]

thanks for the report. Hope you're feeling better soon!

Who knew Linda Ronstadt was such a hateful person, ooh, baby baby ...

AMERICA-bashing Linda Ronstadt shouldn't have been surprised by her ejection from the Las Vegas Aladdin Casino after she dedicated a song to "Fahrenheit 9/11" filmmaker Michael Moore. She's been doing it while touring all summer and, "it splits the audience down the middle and they duke it out," she told the San Diego Union-Tribune. "I saw a movie recently about a camel and these people in Mongolia, and I relate to them better than people here in this country," Ronstadt said. "It looks like [Germany's pre-Nazi] Weimar Republic to me here." Maybe she should take her act to Mongolia, where she'll feel more at home. Ronstadt's reps did not return calls. (pagesix)

What a coincidence, Linda is starting to resemble Hermann Goering. Gag alert re the Beaste:

HILLARY Superwoman is faster than a speeding bullet. Scheduled for every where everyplace every minute at the Dem Convention, she'll leave Boston Monday, fly back to New York for maybe an hour and a half, return to Boston. Why? It's called friendship. Respect. There exists a senior senator from West Virginia. Historian, orator, highly regarded [???] dean of the core who looks to the Constitution for every decision, Sen. Robert Byrd has been a mentor. His book, "Losing America: Confronting a Reckless and Arrogant Presidency," officially debuts Monday at Union Square's Barnes & Noble. The junior senator from New York will be there In Person, In Pantsuit to support him. (Cindy Adams)

I wonder if x42's next step will be to rent himself out for weddings and bar mitzvahs:

Bill Clinton, who never saw a mike he didn't like, will do a first of its kind. An evening, including Q & A, at the Learning Annex Sept. 27, 8-9 p.m. Front seats, $100. To sit wherever, $50. To send your money in fast, p.d.q., like right now, a bargain $25. To attend the pre-cocktail reception, which includes a photo with him — $500. (Cindy Adams)

Gotta run, the carpet man is coming to measure.

[BigWaveBetty]

Good morning. You would have made GWB your best friend if you had slipped him some of your ice.

Beads of sweat stream down President Bush (news - web sites)'s face while speaking at an 'Ask the President' event at Kirkwood Community College in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Tuesday, July 20, 2004. Bush is squeezing in some campaigning before the political spotlight turns to next week's Democratic National Convention in Boston.(AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

Thanks for the report, letting this thread go until tomorrow so everyone can read it.

[BigWaveBetty]

Liberals are always moving the goal posts, that's the only way their message can hold any ground. Is there a word for 'one who moves the goal post'? The closest I can think of is 'Lucy', the one who yanks the football away just as Charlie Brown gets to it to kick.

[lodwick]

Thank you for the report...now get yourself well.

Good morning, everyone.

[They'reGone2000]

Thank Drudge for this one.

Clinton defends Berger: We're all laughing about it.

Keep laughing, Slick.

[mountaineer]

Of course, Sandy Berger only "technically" broke the law regarding classified Archives documents, the way Slick "technically" raped Juanita Broaddrick. Nothing to see here ...

[Endeavor]

get your sinuses under control before flyin all the way to Seattle. Hope you feel better, soon. It was 92 and humid here today. You must have been sharing your weather with us again. Stop thinking of me.

gotta go to Springfield tomorrow - will try to run over a few democrats. I heard we finally got a budget today. whoopee.

[Iowa Granny]

Saw the Dr today, was prescribed a C Pack. Slept a couple of hours this afternoon.

I'm still having coughing spasams when I get too warm, so I have quite a bit of progress to make.

Still trying to figure out what kind of duds to take to Seattle for a week. Don't tell me Umbrella, I've already got 2 laid out.

[Timeout]

The Wall St. Journal lead editorial today was about the Berger affair. As you know, the Journal allows readers to post replies to their editorials.

Morris Buttnick of Mercer Island, Wash. wrote this:

And the Clintons inadvertently moved White House furniture to their private residences when they moved out.

I'm ashamed I didn't think of that.

[Endeavor]

That depends on what you'll be doing in Seattle. I was there in June and it was sunny 4 out of 5 days. Everyone I met with said "Gee, this is really great weather we're having." I just kinda looked at them and thought "Gee, this is a typical day in my neighborhood. What's so unusual?" Of course, the scenery is considerably better there.

[Endeavor]

Mark Foley (R - FL) did. Someone's posted it 'round here.

[Iowa Granny]

Here's the Foley comments:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1175943/posts

[BigWaveBetty]

Finally, that pain in the bazoo Larry Klayman makes a clintonista pay, albeit inadvertently. Too bad it's only Craig Livingstone.

WASHINGTON -- An appeals court ordered the government on Tuesday to reimburse a former Clinton administration official for some legal bills stemming from former independent counsel Kenneth Starr's probe into the Clintons' failed Whitewater land deal.

Craig Livingstone quit as White House personnel security director in 1996 amid congressional protests over his office's collection of FBI files on hundreds of Republicans from the Reagan and first Bush administration. Livingstone has maintained that he did not know that a subordinate ordered the FBI background summaries.

Whitewater prosecutors investigated his handling of the files, and also looked into whether Livingstone removed documents from White House lawyer Vincent Foster's office the day after his 1993 suicide.

Livingstone was never charged with wrongdoing, but he claimed his legal bills topped $235,000.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said Tuesday that he was entitled to about $34,000, for his defense during the investigation of the FBI files.

The court refused to order reimbursement for his fees in defending himself in a civil suit filed by the conservative group Judicial Watch over the FBI files, and penalized him for not adequately documenting his legal expenses. Link

However, it's maddening that tax payers have to pay that slug a single cent.

[BigWaveBetty]

Your alma mater keeping a watch on the weaselly.

SAN FRANCISCO - A San Francisco Chronicle editor who gave $400 to the campaign of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) has been placed on paid leave, pending an investigation into whether his campaign contributions violated the newspaper's ethics policy.



William Pates, the Chronicle's letters editor, went on leave last week after Grade the News, a media watchdog organization based at Stanford University, contacted the paper about Pates' donations to Kerry and other Democrats.


Reached at his home, Pates confirmed he had contributed money to Kerry and other candidates. But Pates said that because he is part of the Chronicle's editorial page staff and not involved in news coverage, he was "surprised" by the paper's action.


"Our policy is rather vague on the matter of conflicts of interest and ethics, and I didn't think that it applied to me," he said.


Editorial page editor John Diaz, who relieved Pates of his duties, said Pates' job requires a clear dividing line between the letters editor and the subjects of the news.


"The selection of letters to the editor is a very important job. It's a gatekeeper role that can have a great deal of influence on what the perception is of public reaction to various issues," Diaz said.


Four other Chronicle staff members and two editors at the paper's Web site, SFGate.com, also were found to have made political contributions in the last few years, Grade the News found.


The Chronicle's managing editor, Robert Rosenthal, told Grade the News that the paper was looking into the contributions made by the four staffers — two of whom recently left the paper. But Vlae Kershner, SFGate's news director, said no action would be taken against the Web site's employees.


The Chronicle has publicly struggled before to define where its employees' professional lives end and their personal lives begin. In March, amid San Francisco's gay marriage spree, the paper removed a reporter and photographer from covering the story after the two women were married at City Hall. And last year, the paper fired a columnist after he was arrested during an anti-war protest.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040722/ap_on_re_us/political_donors_journalists_1