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The Hobbit Hole XI - No One Admitted Except on Wedding Business!
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Posted on 06/17/2004 7:09:03 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Special Edition...No One Admitted Except on Wedding Business!

It is with joy that
HairOfTheDog and ecurbh
Invite you to share in a celebration of love
As they exchange marriage vows
On Saturday June 19
At 12 o'clock noon, Pacific Time
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The Hobbit Hole will be Represented in person by 2Jedismom, Bear in Rosebear, Rose in RoseBear, Overtaxed, Penny1, RMDupree, Scott from the Left Coast, Wneighbor and Ramius (brother of the bride)

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To: Fedora

I promised my friend today that I would try to finish something before next Tuesday - we've been having Tuesday work-n-chat for the last few weeks; get caught up as we sit at our computers and do what we're doing... I told her she had to make some progress on a piece she's been doing for over a year, and she said I need to write something. (Her final deadline is Christmas, as the story is called "Advent")

So I need to write something. First-person POV, short story, something I don't usually write... and interesting.

But before I do that, let's procrastinate and spend money buying those Card books...


1,601 posted on 06/22/2004 5:10:09 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Lil'freeper
And more! Aint Amazon grand?

Description (Elements of Fiction Writing) by Monica Wood

Scene and Structure (Elements of Fiction Writing) by Jack M. Bickham

Plot (Elements of Fiction Writing) by Ansen Dibell

Conflict, Action and Suspense (Elements of Fiction Writing) by William Noble

Setting/How to Create and Sustain a Sharp Sense of Time and Place in Your Fiction (The Elements of Fiction Writing) by Jack M. Bickham

Dialogue: A Socratic Dialogue on the Art of Writing Dialogue in Fiction (Elements of Fiction Writing) by Lewis Turco

Manuscript Submission (Elements of Fiction Writing) by Scott Edelstein

Theme and Strategy (Elements of Fiction Writing) by Ronald Tobias

Revision (Elements of Fiction Writing) by Kit Reed

Voice & Style (Elements of Fiction Writing) by Johnny Payne

1,602 posted on 06/22/2004 5:10:25 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (God Bless Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Fedora
Well, you'll only find them at the used bookstore. Out of print. You have read some of the Niven/Pournelle works, right? At least The Mote in God's Eye? Or Footfall?
1,603 posted on 06/22/2004 5:11:20 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
Say... what are you doing in November?

*tsk*tsk* I know what you're up to.

1,604 posted on 06/22/2004 5:11:26 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (God Bless Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Lil'freeper; Fedora
Oh... do you have John Gardner's The Art of Fiction Writing? You must. So useful!
1,605 posted on 06/22/2004 5:12:33 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
Oh, I checked the title of that nice collection of short stories I just read: New Voices in Science Fiction compiled by Mike Resnick.
1,606 posted on 06/22/2004 5:12:50 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (God Bless Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: JenB
Oh... do you have John Gardner's The Art of Fiction Writing? You must. So useful!

No, and my list of books to get is getting quite long. :(

1,607 posted on 06/22/2004 5:13:28 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (God Bless Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Lil'freeper

I shall look for it!


1,608 posted on 06/22/2004 5:15:44 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

"So I need to write something. First-person POV, short story, something I don't usually write... and interesting."

In the early 20th century a lot of mystery stories were written in first person POV like that. How about a short mystery? Maybe you could describe one of the magic-related cases Cas has to handle--like he's sitting in his office and someone walks in and puts him on a case, so you're writing from his viewpoint as he's trying to solve the case.

"But before I do that, let's procrastinate and spend money buying those Card books..."

That's one of my favorite ways to procrastinate :)


1,609 posted on 06/22/2004 5:16:09 PM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Fedora
I'm working on a nano-themed story but have no idea what's already been written--I should probably research that.

There's a good one called The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson. A what-happens-after? story

1,610 posted on 06/22/2004 5:16:15 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (God Bless Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Fedora

Oooh ooh- a magic gumshoe film noir!


1,611 posted on 06/22/2004 5:18:14 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (God Bless Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Lil'freeper

Out of those, I have the ones by Wood, Bickham's on "Scene and Structure", Dibell, Turco, Edelstein, Tobias, and Payne. The ones I'd recommend most are Bickham, Dibell, and Payne; and Edelstein is a good reference to have on manuscript format though doesn't really give writing tips per se.


1,612 posted on 06/22/2004 5:18:59 PM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: JenB
"Well, you'll only find them at the used bookstore. Out of print. You have read some of the Niven/Pournelle works, right? At least The Mote in God's Eye? Or Footfall?"

Looks at floor sheepishly. . .

1,613 posted on 06/22/2004 5:20:43 PM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Fedora
At least we're in the same boat. Misery loves company.
1,614 posted on 06/22/2004 5:21:25 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (God Bless Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: JenB

"Oh... do you have John Gardner's The Art of Fiction Writing? You must. So useful!"

Don't think I've ever heard of that one. What does it cover that you found useful?


1,615 posted on 06/22/2004 5:23:58 PM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Fedora; Lil'freeper
Ok, so I have the advantage of my father's library, which is older than my own. But you guys ought to check it out. They're good.

Ooh, ooh... found some old notes I wrote down to get stories out of my head. How's this: 1. A comic SF piece, written reminiscent of Connie Willis. A college student, English major, has a dimensional traveler appear in her apartment. He has been trying to get home for several weeks, keeps ending up in the wrong world. She has to help him break into the physics department to get his hands on a piece of equipment.

1,616 posted on 06/22/2004 5:24:48 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Lil'freeper

"There's a good one called The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson. A what-happens-after? story"

Thanks!


1,617 posted on 06/22/2004 5:25:40 PM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Lil'freeper

"Oooh ooh- a magic gumshoe film noir!"

Exactly :) "Maltese Falcon" with a twist :)


1,618 posted on 06/22/2004 5:26:26 PM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Lil'freeper

LOL!


1,619 posted on 06/22/2004 5:27:16 PM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Fedora

It covers pretty much everything. Very solid book. Not aimed at SF, but rather general fiction. Helpful in depressing sorts of ways - makes me realize how I don't measure up.


1,620 posted on 06/22/2004 5:27:22 PM PDT by JenB
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