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Posted on 05/31/2004 12:33:41 PM PDT by Long Cut

Here's the issue...I have an old computer (A Gateway Select 700-MhZ) with Windows 98 on it that I want to give to my father. He's NEVER used a computer before but now that he's retired and my Mom's gone, he's gotten bored and wants to check out this "Internet" he's heard so much about.

My question is, how do I "clean" the computer out? I've already backed up and moved off of it everything I wanted to save, so now I want to "wipe it" clean of anything personal, and basically return it to "pristine". I'm already planning on reloading Windows onto it for him, but should I do something else besides? I admit that I don't know how to "format" the thing...it came with Windows already on it.

Any advice out there?


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Any help would be appreciated. Also, what do you tell someone about the 'net and computers who has never used one in his life?
1 posted on 05/31/2004 12:33:41 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: Poohbah; hchutch; Pukin Dog; All

Ping! Any of you guys got any advice? Ping someone who might, if not.


2 posted on 05/31/2004 12:36:24 PM PDT by Long Cut (Certainty of Death, small chance of Success...What are we waiting for?...Gimli the Dwarf)
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Ping. Any advice, or know someone who does?


3 posted on 05/31/2004 12:45:30 PM PDT by Long Cut (Certainty of Death, small chance of Success...What are we waiting for?...Gimli the Dwarf)
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To: Long Cut

My 2 cents

Reformat and install something other than Window 98. That way you get rid of all the personal stuff and you get a OS that doesn't crash whenever it feels like it.


4 posted on 05/31/2004 12:55:34 PM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Fzob
How does one format? In such a way as to leave the computer able to recieve a new OS, that is, should I decide to give him a new one?

The only thing I've ever used is Windows. Is there something simpler and more easy to use for someone who knows nothing about the intricacies?

5 posted on 05/31/2004 1:02:40 PM PDT by Long Cut (Certainty of Death, small chance of Success...What are we waiting for?...Gimli the Dwarf)
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To: Long Cut
Hi LC. Well, the first thing to tell your dad is this, the computer understands two things, off and on. LOL

My brother was given an older computer for Christmas. He, too, like your Dad had never turned one on. His daughter set everything up for him including Yahoo IM. He learned to do that very quickly.
As someone suggested perhaps a new version of Windows would be best.


Can't say anymore, because I'm a iMac user.
6 posted on 05/31/2004 1:15:47 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (~The Dragon Flies' Lair~ Poetry and Prose~)
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To: Long Cut

I agree; simply move your stuff off of the hard drive; then get a copy of Windows 2000 Pro; and do a clean install OVER Windows 98; that way; no formating is needed; and everything will be good as new.

Win2k Pro IS the most stable OS available out there; I like it even better than WinXP. No more Blue Screens of Death (that is, No Crashes.)

After that; you just show your your father the basics of how the IE browser works; point him to Free Republic.. and he'll never be bored again!


7 posted on 05/31/2004 1:28:56 PM PDT by Biblical Calvinist (Soli Deo Gloria !)
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To: Long Cut

Assuming you have the Gateway recovery CD, you can choose to do a full wipe and reinstall. Don't simply do a reinstall of Windows, because it's a house of cards, as a friend of mine found out while trying to reinstall his AV (Norton).

Start off with a fresh install of Windows, get a firewall and an AV, don't start adding a lot of programs he might not ever use, and I predict it'll be good enough.

Contrary to what some say, '98 is far from dead or useless.


8 posted on 05/31/2004 1:30:20 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: Biblical Calvinist
Win2k Pro IS the most stable OS available out there

...for the 98% of us who don't use Apples, that is. ;-)
9 posted on 05/31/2004 1:56:47 PM PDT by KangarooJacqui (Australian by birth, American by marriage, and conservative by God.)
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To: Long Cut
Get started w/ formatting here

Search the rest of the site for any other questions you may have.

10 posted on 05/31/2004 1:58:36 PM PDT by AlBondigas
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To: Long Cut
You've probably already received sufficient advice to re-format the drive. It is easy to do. If you need assistance in doing this, Freepmail me and I can give you an easy step by step procedure. I've done it many times.

It would be the best way to start clean and from start to finish would only take you two or three hours as long as you have all of the necessary 'tools' ready to go.

Let me know.

11 posted on 05/31/2004 6:31:04 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
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Thanks for the advice...I'm going to try the "restore" disc that came with the 'puter first, then load Windows 2000 over it. That should be enough. I don't think my dad will be digging any deeper than that.

Do you think that's enough? He just wants to surf the net and send/recieve email.

12 posted on 05/31/2004 7:29:16 PM PDT by Long Cut (Certainty of Death, small chance of Success...What are we waiting for?...Gimli the Dwarf)
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To: Long Cut

'98 is plenty enough for that. Teach him to clean out the cache every so often and to scandisk and defrag, get the security updates, and coach him about spyware and certain hijacker sites, etc, and he should do just fine. (All I'm running is an 800mhz Celeron, for what it's worth, and I do more than surf).

If he sticks with it, and ever decided to expand his horizons, then consider spending for 2000.

My 2 cents....


13 posted on 05/31/2004 7:49:12 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: Long Cut
That will be more than enough. Win2k is a very good OS.

One thing you can do to save him some boot time and possible aggravation...

Win2k is a networking OS. As such it is set up to use logins and passwords.
When you get him all set up, go into the Control Panel and double click on Users and Passwords. Set yourself up as an Administrator as part of the Administrators Group. Just in case you need to do some Admin work on his box some day.
Once you've done this then click on his username and uncheck the box that says "Use login and password" or something like that.

This will take away the login function at boot up which can be a pain in the ass for a home user.

I set my wife's laptop up with Win2k just because it is so stable and the poor dear has too many other things to worry about during the day. She doesn't need her laptop going all ferklempt when all she wants to do is play some Scrabble.

Good luck!

14 posted on 05/31/2004 8:11:12 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Thanks. I had loads of trouble with 98 with that machine. Seemed it hit the Blue Screen about twice a day before we upgraded. I don't want him getting all mad and never using it because it crashes all the time.

I just hope that old Gateway will work with W2K.

15 posted on 05/31/2004 8:20:52 PM PDT by Long Cut (Certainty of Death, small chance of Success...What are we waiting for?...Gimli the Dwarf)
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To: Long Cut
I just hope that old Gateway will work with W2K.

Here are the minimum system requirements for running the Windows® 2000 Professional operating system.

Minimum Requirements
Computer/Processor 133 MHz or higher Pentium-compatible CPU.
Memory At least 64 megabytes (MB) of RAM; more memory generally improves responsiveness.
Hard Disk 2 GB with 650 MB free space.
CPU Support Windows 2000 Professional supports single and dual CPU systems.
Drive CD-ROM or DVD drive.
Display VGA or higher resolution monitor.
Keyboard Required.

16 posted on 06/01/2004 5:54:17 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Contrary to what some say, '98 is far from dead or useless.

You do know that Microsoft no longer provides either support or updates for 98, don't you?

17 posted on 06/01/2004 8:25:34 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
You've probably already received sufficient advice to re-format the drive... I've done it many times.

That alone confirms your credentials as a Windows user.

18 posted on 06/01/2004 8:27:37 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: Long Cut
How does one format?

If you don't know, I would ~not~ do it. I have never had a reformat that ~didn't~ go very very bad. This is something techies do... but is akin to telling a non-mechanic to take your engine apart just to clean everything.

You could accidently turn it from a working computer into a boat anchor.

I would uninstall everything that he won't need, delete files of yours, and then do a de-fragment on it... That is easier to walk you through.

I'd love to tell you that you should upgrade it to Windows XP, but I would look at the system requirements first to see if it has the power to run it.

19 posted on 06/01/2004 8:31:05 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (The Democratic Party has jumped the shark.)
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To: tdadams
That alone confirms your credentials as a Windows user.

I don't have a problem with it. Sometimes that's what it takes to maintain a PC.

Just as I wouldn't expect my John Deere tractor to run flawlessly in perpetuity without normal maintenance. Sometimes you have to take the heads off and do a ring job.

Besides, it's a way for me to get free beer from my PC/Windows using friends who don't know the little ins and outs of computers. We've had huge parties centering on a single PC rebuild. Does that make me a geek?

20 posted on 06/01/2004 8:47:09 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
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