Posted on 05/17/2004 11:14:22 PM PDT by Susannah
Just curious if Hitler was raised with a particular denomination of religion. And, if so, did his church excommunicate him?
There aren't that many Buddhists. When they do get control they are as bad as any group that follows a non-pagan/atheist philosophy
Actually, Tribune, there are 700 million Buddhists compared to 1.2 billion Christians today. And till 800 AD, there were more Buddhist adherents than Christians in the world (the nubmers changed once India re-converted from Buddhism to Hinduism in the 9th century after Shankracharya). So, they certainly had the critical mass to go nuts if the religion was so geared.
By the way, the last war of religion between Christians was in the 1940s, between Catholic Croatians and Orthodox Serbs. It exterminated more than half a million.
He was into that Nordic paganism, the old, pre Roman european stuff.
Right. Do they recognize that Communism is a religion? It's worship of the state.
There is evidence that suggests that Marx was an active Satanist. He wrote plays and poems which deal with issues of religion, and he was a pretty twisted guy. Richard Wurmbrand, who spent 18 years in a Romanian prison for his faith, wrote a book about it.
Really?
So all the tribal warfare that goes on in Africa, New Guinea, and who knows where else, not counting all the pre Christianity conflicts in tribal societies throughout history, that doesn't count? The Mayans and Aztecs, who practiced public human sacrifice of POWs, by the priests no less, that doesn't count? How about the Caananites, who killed their own children, among others, in the name of their gods? ( Not much has changed, what with the Palestinians and their suicide bomber kids)
You had better check your history.
What about the Norhtern Ireland thing then? Doesn't that qualify under your definition of what a religious war is?
My point is that a religious war can manifest from very nonreligious reasons. The religion becomes a rallying point, a way of separating groups and solidifying an identity. In the case of Christianity, it surely doesn't reflect the teachings of Jesus. Remember this? "13 ¶And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. 14 And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?"
So using Jesus as a justification for one side over another isn't cool with Him.
But Mohammed, now that's a different story.
There is evidence that suggests that Marx was an active Satanist
Yes, and Hitler's involvement in the occult starting before World War I in Vienna is also well documented. He apostasized from the Catholic church as a student in Vienna, and did not attend church...but that doesn't stop "catholic bashers" from pointing out he was never excommunicated...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0814730604/qid=1085141282/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-9679983-9036155?v=glance&s=books
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0826414095/qid=1085141282/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-9679983-9036155?v=glance&s=books
A conquering tribe would often take the conquered idols & put them in their temple. The Aztecs used war to acquire prisoners to sacrifice to their gods.
They fought wars for lots of other reasons, but the stupid "mine is the One True God so die, Infidel!" was not one of them.
Why is that more stupid than enslave them because they talk/look different?
You are incorrect. First the specifics arthurus. Not microbes, but smallpox. Also, Aztecs and Incas, not "south Americans and Mexicans".
And now the generalities - the conquitadors specifically went after "gold, glory, and God". Read about the pope's role in it
http://iweb.tntech.edu/kosburn/history-499/the%20Spanish%20in%20the%20Southeast.htm
He was born and raised a Catholic. Had a good bit of negotiations with the catholic church in 1936 and 38. He was invited to the viewing of the "seamless robe" at the cathederal in Triere, but couldn't make it and so sent a representative.
He died a catholic. According to that particular faith's precepts, he probably had a tough time at his judgement just after he killed himself.
Smallpox is microbes just like any other virus or bacterium. And the point is that the indians were not killed off by genocidal massacre. The conquistadores had no notion just how deadly their invasion was until it was done. Aztecs were one relatively small ruling tribe in Mexico which country was named for them- The Meshica Aztecs. They were tyrannical in their rule, even by Mexican standards of the time and their cruelty got themselves offed because their subject peoples, the largest group of which was the Tlascalans, sided with the invaders. The Incas were not even a tribe. They were the rulers and by extension, the ruling class of one Quechua speaking tribe that originally came to power over the other Quechuans, then their neighbors, the Aymara-speakers, and then many tribes up and down the west coast of S. AM.
As for the three "GS" the conquistadores went for the first two. The friars and priests that accompanied them mitigated their barbarity to some extent and the Pope declared the Indians to be Human Beings which prevented the wholesale enslavement of the population. The Indians were not killed for their lack of adherence to the Faith but were exhorted, hectored even, to convert. It was the Pope who made it a requirement that the Indians be treated as human and not massacred or enslaved as animals. He put them under the protection of the Church. They were to be persuaded to convert, not killed and they were not presented with the Mohammedan choice of death or conversion. The Indians in Mexico, at a certain point took the religion of the conquerors. In Mexican culture that is what happened when a new conqueror arose. His god(s) was deemed to be the conqueror of their god.
Seems pretty pointless, after all, it seems to me that he excommunicated himself.
Are you Catholic? If so, do they excommunicate someone who willingly rejects Jesus? If they do, why, since they have already made that choice? Just curious...
The answer was his religion was humanist, his politics socialism and he rejected the Catholicism of his youth, except when it served his political purposes. The Religion he personally founded was the SS, a mixture of paganistic occultism and humanism. It put forth the NAZI Creed, "Nazi" is short for "nationalsozialistische" or "National Socialist" ..
That was for public consumption. In private, Hitler revealed his true feelings, which could best be described as "neo-pagan" (although modern neo-pagans are generally nothing like Hitler and probably consider him to have been a Christian because nobody wants Hitler in "their" club).
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