Message to Mel Gibson's Father

Email | 4/11/2004 | Dan Barash

[netmilsmom]

I'm sorry to all the people who took offense to this, but it was pretty funny.
Christians get slammed but from what I can see (yet don't understand) the Jews are beated on more than anyone else.
BTW Mel's dad was mentioned once. He is an old man with old ideas. I knew many people who were bigoted against many when I was a child. The problem is not the old with the old ideas, it's the young that keep them up.

[TradicalRC]

No, anyone being honest knows that the reason any of us even know the name of Mel's dad - let alone his views on the holocaust - is because Abe Foxman declared Mel the enemy of Judaism, and wasn't able to make a very good case of it with the material he had.

Amen. I never even heard of this guy until Mel made his movie about Christ and I cannot name any other celebrities parents, go figure. There are those that see anyone who is a devout Christian as ipso facto an anti-Semite.

But we are not supposed to see this as Christian bashing. Okaay.

[TradicalRC]

The guy writing this has nothing to do with that. He is a rightwing Jew and this is directed to the dad, and in no way is he trying to descredit the movie Passion, in no way part of the ADL, etc. etc.

Strictly speaking, you are of course correct.

That said, Hutton Gibson would have remained a non-topic if it weren't for leftist groups trying to attack Mel Gibson and his traditional Christianity. Now that they have attacked his father and gave him a status he otherwise would never had enjoyed, if that is the right phrase, The author of the article seems to be piling on regardless of his political views.

He would be seen as more authentically right wing if he pointed out these salient facts.

[TradicalRC]

Your god requires the tax paid support of the state and inculturation of the unwilling unbelievers in school?

On the contrary, those who worship the State and State control of education require the taxing of non-believers of their secular religion in order to inculturate the masses with their secular ideology.

Christians are second class citizens who are forced to pay twice in order to educate their children properly. And the first payment to the State is used to teach children values that are anti-thetical to their religious values as well as antithetical to producing decent moral citizens to maintain the health of the Republic.

[TradicalRC]

He is, however, outspoken about some strange, and objectively incorrect, beliefs.

The beliefs strike me as strange as well. But I have yet to see a compare and contrast based on evidence between the differing points of view regarding the holocaust and yes there are several. While I've seen several articles quoting Hutton Gibson's views, I must say that he is arguing degree not denial.

Concerning Greenspan, I always thought he was some kind of Ayn Rand objectivist despite his Jewish heredity.

Ayn Rand was a Russian Jewish emigre who came to America and fell in love with it.

[TradicalRC]

Apparently someone kept hitting the abuse button on Conservative Knight. Too bad, now I'll never know what his side of the story was.

I guess we've become just as tolerant as the left on these matters.

[Tribune7]

Nothing I saw he said was that bad. I'm suspecting he was a returning bannee who was caught.