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Message to Mel Gibson's Father
Email | 4/11/2004 | Dan Barash

Posted on 04/11/2004 4:02:33 PM PDT by yonif

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To: Sam Cree
See #99.

Thanks.
101 posted on 04/11/2004 8:26:46 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
This article is directed against the views of the father

Come on now. Can you explain why Mel's name is in the title and not his father's name?

102 posted on 04/11/2004 8:26:51 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
Can you explain why Mel's name is in the title and not his father's name?

For the same reason it is like that when it is talked about relatives of celebrities or important people. It catches people's attention, and people usually know who is being talked about.

Reagan's son talks about his abuse

Lieberman backs Bush's brother in case of comatose woman

Bush's younger brother quizzed over $2m deal (Neil Bush)

103 posted on 04/11/2004 8:30:57 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
For the same reason it is like that when it is talked about relatives of celebrities or important people.

The technique is used frequently to discredit the well known person. Your examples illustrate this use very well.

110 posted on 04/11/2004 8:38:24 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ConservativeKnight
The Holocaust was real, but enough has not been said about the Soviet murders of Christians during the Red Terror.

You raise a really good point. Hutton Gibson is a crank who won on Jeopardy then fled to Australia to avoid "the big conflict" where his son became a movie star.

You have people who deny -- not necessarily disbelieve -- the Communist atrocities who are poltical leaders, editors and academics and make policies based on this lie. And unlike Gibson they are lionized in certain "respectable" circles.

111 posted on 04/11/2004 8:38:38 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Arlen Specter supports the International Crime Court having jurisdiction over US soldiers)
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To: ladyjane
True, but by leftists. We rightwingers, do not. So I guess this piece could be used by both in different ways. Even if this guy really did mean to use it against Mel Gibson, we know better.
114 posted on 04/11/2004 8:46:50 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Tribune7
Well, so long ConservativeKnight. Just curious but what kind of troll was he? He actually had me thinking he was quasi-rational.
115 posted on 04/11/2004 8:47:24 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Arlen Specter supports the International Crime Court having jurisdiction over US soldiers)
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To: Tribune7
I had supposed he was rational as well...I didn't see his posts before the zot came and got him, though, the ones that are now removed.
116 posted on 04/11/2004 9:03:28 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: unspun
It's actually my mother's toy poodle, Amber. She controls the world.

Don't say that where my cat can hear you!
118 posted on 04/11/2004 11:38:54 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: CapnBarbossa
Your god requires the tax paid support of the state and inculturation of the unwilling unbelievers in school?>>

What do you think SCHOOL is FOR? (We inculcate unwilling unbelievers in the civic skills such as voting. We inculturate unwilling unbelievers in the overwhelming power of the law. There should be no reason whatsoever why 'unwilling unbelievers,' as you put them, should be able to veto the cultural expressions of willing believers. To do so makes the 'willing believers' subjected to the
inculturation of the unwilling unbelievers, or, in the alternative, the willing believers of a radically different outlook: not Judaism, as you so snidely insinuate, but rather red-diaper socialism (and the pile of human skulls that go with it), for which the 'separation of church and state' (which in its modern use is as different from Jefferson's vision as s--t is from shinola) is the true stalking horse.

Isn't He stronger than requiring pharisaic outward displays of ostensible faith (think of the publican).>>>

It's not he who is weak, but us. Humans NEED cultural support for their beliefs, it's part of our fallen nature. I'd rather have my kids singing "Silent Night" (or the hannukkah equivalent) in choir class than "I Want Your Sex."

119 posted on 04/12/2004 3:32:58 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (killing innocent people is not a hobby that anyone should take up)
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To: yonif
"What is there to respect? That guy is dilusional."

Leave this 84-year old man alone for he has no power to do anything about anything.

Why not devote your energies to Bush and Kerry, two misguided men who have the power to do a lot of bad to a lot of people and one already is doing such.
120 posted on 04/12/2004 4:36:18 AM PDT by RaginCajunTrad (Proud to be a Trad!)
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