AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 1155) [Remember the Trade Center!!]

Various News Sources and FReepers | Marc h 22, 2004 | All of Us

[DollyCali]

All...

Help? What is the best "white pages" search for email & phone numbers?

I have used several over the years & have a few bookmarked but need to find numbers for about 200 semi local folks to call for our get together..

I recall the last time I used one.. maybe half year ago, did not like it very much

[KangarooJacqui]

Hi KJ.. how are things in australia this fine day? Have you & Jemian chatted yet? she is in your neck of woods.

Well, right now it's dark (11.30pm, almost) but despite being "autumn", the days are still hot, the cyclones (hurricanes) still threaten, and I believe FR keeps me sane...

Jemian? That's a name I've not heard before, let alone heard from. I must look her/him up... ;-)

By the way, good to see you again. How's that dog of your doing? And is it warm enough down your way to do any kayaking yet?

[kassie]

My niece is moving to CO from Alice Springs. She loves it there.

[Peach]

Bob Woodward in his book Bush at War was given unprecedented access to the president and his administration, including Clarke. Clarke did not mention his concerns about a "focus on Iraq."

The Bush administration was continuing the Clinton administration's foreign policy which called for regime change in Iraq.

Iraq's involvement in supporting terrorists is longer than I can post her but some of the more obvious: Abdul Rahman Yasin, the one conspirator from the 1993 WTC bombing, had fled to Iraq and was harbored by Saddam Hussein for years. Paying Palestinian bomber's families. Salmon Pak where terrorists used a real airplane to learn how to hijack OUR planes.

Clarke claims that Condi Rice didn't even know who Al Qaeda was. I'm nearly falling on the floor laughing. The entire world knew UBL was a threat when he was interviewed in a world exclusive interview, by CNN's Nic Robertson in August of 1998, televised in it's entirety to the world via CNN and CNN International and when he famously repeated his jihad against America.

Just a year ago Clarke was singing a different tune, telling reporter Richard Miniter, author of the book "Losing bin Laden," that it was the Clinton administration - not team Bush - that had dropped the ball on bin Laden.

Clarke, who was a primary source for Miniter's book, detailed a meeting of top Clinton officials in the wake of al Qaeda's attack on the USS Cole in Yemen.

He urged them to take immediate military action. But his advice found no takers.

Reporting on Miniter's book, the National Review summarized the episode:

"At a meeting with Secretary of Defense William Cohen, Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Attorney General Janet Reno, and other staffers, Clarke was the only one in favor of retaliation against bin Laden."

The list of excuses seemed endless:

"Reno thought retaliation might violate international law and was therefore against it.

"Tenet wanted to more definitive proof that bin Laden was behind the attack, although he personally thought he was.

"Albright was concerned about the reaction of world opinion to a retaliation against Muslims, and the impact it would have in the final days of the Clinton Middle East peace process.

"Cohen, according to Clarke, did not consider the Cole attack 'sufficient provocation' for a military retaliation."

And what about President Clinton? According to what Clarke told Miniter, he rejected the attack plan. Instead Clinton twice phoned the president of Yemen demanding better cooperation between the FBI and the Yemeni security services.

Clarke offered a chillingly prescient quote from one aide who agreed with him about Clinton administration inaction. "What's it going to take to get them to hit al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Does al Qaeda have to attack the Pentagon?" said the dismayed Clintonista

[KangarooJacqui]

Thankyou for your welcome. I stealth-post on many threads, including this one, "Amy's Place", and anything else I find amusing or outrageous.

In other words... I'm all over the place (sounds like my life, really!)

[kassie]

Thanks for your run down on things. I can't have the tv on, son is starting studies.

[Peach]

Morning, kassie.

The DNC has their talking points. THere's no reason why we shouldn't have our talking points too. LOL

[DollyCali]

Jemian is on this thread ..she is on about your same schedule sleep/awake. You can Private Freepmail her. She teaches & love to scuba.

I did get out kayaking a few weeks ago. Idiocy. I used the paddle more to break ice, than paddle..It is in 20s now & snow flurries... got a few inches here last night (again)

Oliver is fine. best activity buddy I have ever had....

[kassie]

That's right!

What has always bothered me, among other things, is that the RATS can say or do anything and expect the GOP to roll over and play dead.

[KangarooJacqui]

I never visited Colorado. An abiding regret...

Then again, I've never visited Alice Springs either. Although I have a friend there.

I was born in Perth, Western Australia. Look on a map, though, and you'll see it's so far from anywhere that well.. when I left at 11 months old (30 years ago), that was the last I ever saw of it.

I've been an east-coast gal ever since... including my first nine months in the states (my late husband didnt call himself "TrappedInLiberalHell" for nothing - we lived in central Connecticut.)

[kassie]

I think it'll be hard for my niece to adjust to Colorado after living in Alice Springs. She says it is like America was back in the 50s.

[KangarooJacqui]

I think it'll be hard for my niece to adjust to Colorado after living in Alice Springs. She says it is like America was back in the 50s.

She'll adjust. We all do. I was a suburban girl transplanted to Nowhereseville, Connecticut... and I was enchanted by the wildlife!

We all find something we love.

[prairiebreeze]

Correct. All Clintoon ever did was demand cooperation and make empty promises to America. He didn't have the guts to risk an effective strategy like putting boots on the ground. Clintoon, typical liberal, wouldn't consider risking the political capital.

Prairie

[kassie]

Yes, she will adjust. She has 2 small children, that will keep her busy. It's just that she so enjoyed her life in AS.

[Peach]

Welcome back, prairie.

The administration isn't taking this one lying down.

[DollyCali]

RE: white pages request...

I am looking for something that in ONE step will give me phone numbers & email, if available with input of name, address, city, state.

most have separate steps & you must reenter all.

I am looking for most expedient way to do this

[lysie]

How depressing....LOL

I won't be getting one of those for any of my dem relatives. On second thought, it makes me think they thought of the idea.

[lysie]

Welcome back, prairie.

[Peach]

It was very sensible, given that Iraq hid the terrorist behind the first WTC bombing, to ask Clarke to make SURE Iraq wasn't behind 9/11.

Also, in the book The New Jackals by Simon Reeve, it was noted that Iraq went on its highest state of alert with its military two weeks prior to 9/11 and Saddam sent his family into his most secure bunker where Saddam himself went and didn't emerge until mid-October.

[maica]

Each month has a picture with a comical thought caption!

http://www.despair.com/2004calendar.html

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I just sent this link on to lots of friends. We all need something to bring a smile these days.