The Hobbit Hole VII - But not yet weary are our feet...

[HairOfTheDog]

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

But not yet weary are our feet...

• First thread: New Zealander builds Hobbit hole
• Second thread: The New Hobbit Hole
• Third thread: The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads! (Congratulations, we filled it up!)
• Fourth Thread: The Hobbit Hole IV - The Road Goes Ever On...
• Fifth Thread: The Hobbit Hole V - Where Many Paths and Errands Meet...
• Sixth Thread: The Hobbit Hole VI - And Whither Then? I Cannot Say...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red, Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet, Still round the corner we may meet A sudden tree or standing stone That none have seen but we alone. Tree and flower and leaf and grass, Let them pass! Let them pass! Hill and water under sky, Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait A new road or a secret gate, And though we pass them by today, Tomorrow we may come this way And take the hidden paths that run Towards the Moon or to the Sun. Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe, Let them go! Let them go! Sand and stone and pool and dell, Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead, And there are many paths to tread Through shadows to the edge of night, Until the stars are all alight. Then world behind and home ahead, We’ll wander back to home and bed. Mist and twilight, cloud and shade, Away shall fade! Away shall fade! Fire and lamp, and meat and bread, And then to bed! And then to bed!

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[osagebowman]

WN; wow, scary news indeed; you always think that there is enough safeguards, now it appears again. Dang, this is not good, prayers for the youngster and family.

[Fedora]

Thanks!--that gives me something to start with :)

[Ramius]

Well, like Hair said... people make lousy witnesses. It's one thing when people are asked to recall things that they know they'll have to recall... but it's quite another to expect people to reliably recall something they weren't expecting to have to recall.

I remember a session of one of my law enforcement classes that somebodyorother (maybe marshalls or DEA? not sure) was putting on:

We were in a classroom that we'd borrowed from a local school. There were thirty or so people in the room, and at some point in the presentation of some L.E. topics... some guy in the room gets up and grabs a package off the instructor's desk and runs out of the room with it.

The instructor goes: "You were all just witnesses to a crime. That 'student' just stole something. Get a fresh piece of paper and write out a statement of everything you saw. After we handed them up to him, he starts reading them. It was amazing, the gamut of things that "witnesses" saw... some said he ran out of the room, some said he walked. Some said it was a box, some said it was a bag. And... I kid you not... Some said the guy was white. Some said he was hispanic. Some said he was black.

Of course it was a set-up... after this the "guy" comes back into the room and the rest of the lesson is spent discussing how "eyewitness" accounts of events are simply NOT to be trusted. It is actually a fairly common device that is employed all over the LE world to reinforce the idea that eyewitnesses aren't the be-all and end-all of crime investigation. It was a good lesson.

[Wneighbor]

Safeguards - agreed. I think these people get busy and careless. I know they really are busy. But, the kid's safety has to be number 1!

[RMDupree]

Good evening everyone!

WN - I'm praying for that little boy!

[Ramius]

There's alot to be said for a sheath knife (like: no moving parts), though I think some military commands frown on them. Not sure why, but I once tried to carry my sheath knife on duty and was "asked" to switch it out for a folder. I never did understand why.

[Fedora]

Wow, that's a scary situation! Prayers going up!

[Ramius]

Hey Rutheeeeee!

[RMDupree]

*waving* Hey there!

[Ramius]

[waving] I'm over *here* waaaay in the back!!! Can you ask the barmistress to bring another pitcher????

[RMDupree]

I got it!!

[osagebowman]

Ramius; true enough, carries over to a lot of fields, same when I was a Forest Ranger and double the same when I was in the Police Reserves, still you'd think a sheath knife with a 3 inch blade would get a pass from the brass when there are unpleasant people about.

[Ramius]

Woohoo!! Guiness!!! :-)

[Wneighbor]

I've been through one of those classes where they do that too. I coulda told 'em at the beginning I'd be lousy at it. I'm not even one of those wimmin who notices when her friends get a haircut!

What disturbs me about this was the lack of responsibility of the child. Seems to me perhaps the woman should have been required to wait in the office not roam the halls while the kid was roaming the hall coming to the office.

And --- howcome I have to be disturbed with video surveilance at my campus but they don't have it at a place where something like this happens? Kindergarteners just need a little extra watching IMO.... not like they can fend for themselves in most of these situations.

[RMDupree]

*smile*

[Wneighbor]

Hi Ruthy!!! I'm waiting for ONE more student to finish a test!!! Then I can go home.

I am hoping the news will say something about the little boy!

[RMDupree]

((((WN)))))

[Ramius]

You'd think. I think at my time it was a policy change, because many of us had carried them until then, and we all had to go out and get folders.

We made the argument (and I think rightfully so) that a fixed sheath knife is substantially safer than a folder that -almost- always locks up. Not to mention that they're inherently stronger... blah blah blah...

My guess is that they made the rule because the rank and file were getting a little out of hand with the size of their sheath knives. As Winmag said... the tendency to go to the "hollywood" knife had affected too many. To change to a folder inherently limits the blade size, in most cases. I'm guessing it was something like that.

[Ramius]

Yah... but remember... the same thing has happened thousands of times at that school without incident. Complacency is not criminal... it is inevitable.

Don't blame the wrong people here... save the blame for the person that took advantage of the system and stole what was not theirs.

[Ramius]

Duuude... they're playin' Freebird on the Jukebox... haven't heard this in ages...

Lighters up!!! :-)