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The Passion is Turning Things Upside Down
CBN News at CBN.com ^ | March 9, 2004 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 03/09/2004 6:00:17 AM PST by KriegerGeist

The Passion is Turning Things Upside Down

By Gene Edward Veith
World Magazine

Both sides should realize that if all Jews really were personally responsible for the crucifixion of Christ, then every Christian should love every Jew, since without Christ's death, God's wrath would have fallen on each of us instead.

CBN.com – CHRIST REALLY DOES HAVE A WAY OF TURNING things upside down. Crowds of Christians pour into an R-rated movie, while cultural liberals—who usually say violent entertainment is harmless and art is supposed to be shocking—are warning about too much violence and a movie's baleful effects. An "art house film" in a foreign language with a controversial topic, a cutting-edge style, and an in-your-face aesthetic—a film that could not even find a major studio distributor—has turned into a smash hit.

The Passion of the Christ earned more in one day than any other religious-themed movie in history has made total. It had a bigger opening box office than any movie ever outside of the summer and holiday seasons. "Playing on 4,643 screens at 3,006 theaters, the $30 million production took in a whopping $26,556,573" on opening day, reported Box Office Mojo, a Hollywood trade site, "ironically prompting most in the industry to use the Lord's name in vain out of sheer amazement."

And yet, Hollywood, going against its own business interests, is reportedly set to blacklist Mel Gibson. The New York Times reports that the powers that be in the movie industry—those defenders of artistic freedom who bewail the blacklisting of Hollywood's communists decades ago—are going to punish Mr. Gibson for making this movie.

The Times' Sharon Waxman cites a number of powerful industry leaders who have vowed to have nothing to do with Mr. Gibson. She quotes one head of a studio who would not allow his name to be used: "It doesn't matter what I say. It'll matter what I do. I will do something. I won't hire him. I won't support anything he's part of."

The article shows that part of the hostility is sheer aversion to religion. A bigger factor is the conviction of many Jews, among them some of Hollywood's biggest players, that the film is anti-Semitic. The controversy has made clear that just as some who call themselves Christians have blamed all Jews, including those who were not alive at the time, and Judaism itself for killing Jesus, there are some Jews who blame all Christians, including those who were not alive at the time, and Christianity itself for the Holocaust.

Both sides should realize that if all Jews really were personally responsible for the crucifixion of Christ, then every Christian should love every Jew, since without Christ's death, God's wrath would have fallen on each of us instead.

But as the controversy grew, worries about anti-Semitism became only one of the complaints against such an explicit rendering of Christ's suffering, death, and resurrection. Newsweek came out with a cover story attacking the Bible itself. The Dallas Morning News trotted out liberal theologians who denied that Christ's death was sacrificial and an atonement for sin. Said a New Testament scholar from Berkeley, "It makes God sound bloodthirsty."

As for the reaction among Christians, many evangelicals considered The Passion of the Christ too Catholic. But if the movie is more Catholic than evangelicals are used to, it is also more evangelical than Catholics are used to. Mel Gibson went on TV to tell about his fall into sin and how, at the pinnacle of his external success, he fell into despair and was near suicide. Then he picked up a Bible and read about how Jesus died for him, which turned his life around.

That is an "evangelical" testimony, not that common among Catholics, especially traditionalist Catholics like Mr. Gibson. For evangelicals, the center of their devotion is the Scriptures, something traditionalist Catholics tended to keep away from the laity, but here Mr. Gibson—defending the truth of the Bible before his inquisitors—follows the text of Scripture in a literal, highly realistic way. And the subtitles proclaim the gospel all the way through—how Christ is bearing our sins and suffering in our place (which means all of the horrors we watch Him endure should have been happening to us).

American Christianity had become superficial, happy-clappy, offering formulas for earthly success rather than the promise of eternal life and a call to radical discipleship. Our evangelism had become reduced to "ask Jesus into your heart," without sometimes even mentioning who Jesus is and what He paid for our salvation. This movie, for all its faults and limitations, has reminded Christians of the magnitude of the cross.

And, in an uncanny way, we are seeing the truth of Scripture demonstrated once again: "We preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to the Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God" (1 Corinthians 1:23-24). [ This about says it all]


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KEYWORDS: prideandthepassion; thepassion; thepassioon; thepassiooon
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To: the lone haranguer
As far as the lack of the rooster's crow, how could anyone have heard that over the racket

It's my understanding that in earlier Biblical times, ( we are STILL in Biblical times ) the hours of the day were not kept they way we do now.

The "Cock Crowing" hour is as you'd expect, considered the hour just before dawn.

What Jesus meant was that before the end of this very NIGHT Peter, you will betray me three times.

Neither of them was really expecting to hear an actual rooster crowing.

81 posted on 03/09/2004 7:49:22 AM PST by MassExodus
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To: Geist Krieger
"but to those who are called" (1 Corinthians 1:23-24)


Gee, sounds kind of Calvinistic, doesn't it.


82 posted on 03/09/2004 7:49:53 AM PST by A. Patriot
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To: the lone haranguer
As for how Claudia knew she was going to do that, I have no idea. I took Mary's actions as a sort of psychological defense mechanism, like 'if I can just get rid of all this blood then everything will be okay'.

I also would have liked to see the centurion acknowledge Jesus as the Son of God after the earthquake. If I was making a movie like this, I'd have used every bit of dialogue in the Gospels.
83 posted on 03/09/2004 7:50:39 AM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: wirestripper
I am going to give Mel a couple extra bucks today.

I just sent my mother in MO enough money to buy 8 tickets for Seniors at her church who otherwise could not afford to go. My original pledge was to donate 5, but with the Senior discount, I was able to purchase a few more. And I haven't even seen the movie yet, have not been able to find tickets in our area, the churches have apparently been buying them all up.

84 posted on 03/09/2004 7:51:08 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: biblewonk
I hear Mary is in almost every scene.

I heard Mary and Jesus are the only two people in the flick who can see the Satan character.

85 posted on 03/09/2004 7:52:56 AM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
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To: LurkingSince'98; biblewonk
buddy false witness includes not checking your sources, or are you a liberal story writer for the New Yourk Times, lurking on FR?

Now, more than ever, I'm convinced some things are just too subtle for you.

86 posted on 03/09/2004 7:57:40 AM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
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To: newgeezer
That's not totally clear in the movie, but generally, yes. Mary sees Satan moving through the crowd, following Jesus, but there's no indication whether she recognizes who/what it is. It's not clear if other people can see Satan, but nobody takes notice of him.
87 posted on 03/09/2004 7:59:18 AM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The "craftsman with a hammer" shot lasts all of two or three seconds.

I didn't see it, but I'll look for it when I see the movie again. I suppose that it should come as no surprise to find the film's detractors examining it more closely than the Zapruder film, hoping to find something - anything they can point to as the smoking gun of anti-semitism.

88 posted on 03/09/2004 7:59:54 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: newgeezer; biblewonk
You both pronounced a judgement on the merit of this movie based on what someone else claimed about the movie -- an allegation that several of us who have SEEN the movie have disputed.

When you give testimony to what you have SEEN, you are a witness. When you give testimony to what you have heard others say they have seen, you are a GOSSIP.

As others have already said, if you choose not to see this movie, that is your choice and nobody should criticize you for that. But don't criticize the movie saying it has this fault or that fault based on what you have heard from sources that have already been exposed as questionable at best.

Oh, and one more time, the movie did not in any way suggest that the cross was made in a synagogue. The author of the website that you referenced apparently INFERRED that idea on his own.

89 posted on 03/09/2004 8:02:51 AM PST by VRWCmember (Dick Gephardt is a <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure </a>)
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To: MassExodus
There was a tv network mini series a while ago called A.D. which did just that.
90 posted on 03/09/2004 8:04:36 AM PST by xp38
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To: newgeezer
yes, that is the same 'subtle excuse' that all of the herd reporters use!

Hey I'm just quoting someone else so I'm not responsible for what I repeat. Don't blame me if it's wrong it's the other guy.

Yeah, subtle...


91 posted on 03/09/2004 8:05:35 AM PST by LurkingSince'98
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To: newgeezer
I heard Mary and Jesus are the only two people in the flick who can see the Satan character

I couldn't tell whether Mary could see the Satan character or not. Also, there was no indication as to whether or not she recognized him as Satan. What was VERY clear was that Satan continued to lurk and stalk Christ every step of the way, during the points where he was suffering the most and the temptation to stop must have been the greatest.

92 posted on 03/09/2004 8:06:15 AM PST by VRWCmember (Dick Gephardt is a <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure </a>)
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To: VRWCmember
I agree. It looked, in a way, like it was intended to be a juxtaposition - two characters following Jesus, watching with intensity, but with very different motivations. There didn't seem to be any reason to definitively conclude that Mary saw Satan...they didn't directly encounter one another, that I can recall.
93 posted on 03/09/2004 8:14:25 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Now that's funny!

I could just picture the riots in SF and West LA...

LOL
94 posted on 03/09/2004 8:20:17 AM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: MassExodus
That was one of the things I was thinking of, too. Say, a condensed version of The Acts of The Apostles. Be a great evangelism aid.

But a well done flick of how the early church lived, and died, would be great to convict and energize our weekend warrioring, milquetoast american church.
95 posted on 03/09/2004 8:24:30 AM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: LurkingSince'98
Representing something as truth vs. posting something for debate.

Obviously, too subtle.

96 posted on 03/09/2004 8:25:08 AM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
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To: wirestripper
My study of the Catholic version/idea of Mary has left me damaged goods.
97 posted on 03/09/2004 8:29:04 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: Geist Krieger
For evangelicals, the center of their devotion is the Scriptures, something traditionalist Catholics tended to keep away from the laity...

I wonder what the basis in fact is for this statement.

98 posted on 03/09/2004 8:35:36 AM PST by tekriter
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To: newgeezer
you have an agenda just as the liberal writers of our time - it is wrong whoever and wherever it comes.
99 posted on 03/09/2004 8:56:19 AM PST by LurkingSince'98
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To: ahayes
Bad analogy. You don't have to have firsthand experience to denounce homosexuality, but you have to have certain knowledge before you denounce a fellow church member for having strange men over nightly.

It's a good analogy. I don't have to see the movie to know how I feel about it and decide I don't want to see it.

100 posted on 03/09/2004 8:56:32 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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