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To: Blood of Tyrants; Celtjew Libertarian
This guy has a pretty good handle on it from the Jewish perspective.

What would make you think your link in 38 (below) is a Jewish perspective.

The Jews are the architects of human wickedness? The holocaust was Christ’s vengence on the Jews? Jews brought the ovens on themselves?

I reject it. Christians on this site tell me it's not a Christian perspective. Are they wrong?

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Shalom everyone, I recognize that i am responsible for Yeshua's on the cross as a Jew. If you study the Gospels well, it is clear that the Jews bear prime responsabilty for killing Christ and we have since forth been cursed by God. The Jews are in many ways the architects of human wickedness.

"His blood be on our heads and on the heads of our children". This is a clear allusion to the curse that is upon the Jews. In fact, we may see the Shoa as a way in which Christ poured out his continued wrath upon the Jews for their evil. The ovens of Europe, so painful, were yet another example of the curse that is upon the Jews for killing his beloved.

We are no longer under the spiritual curse since we are in Yeshua (Romans 8), but because we are Jews, we are still part of the communal curse upon the Jews for their killing of Christ.

The Jews are a people who have lied and cheated God. They are the architects of the death of Yeshua and the suffering of the Jews throughout the ages is an example of the punishment inflicted for the jews not coming to Yeshua in faith. The Spirit of Ha Shaytan is deep within the Jews sadly. The Jews have destroyed America and have brought down curse after curse upon us.

I often times need to tell my Christian friends who are naive about the Jews that the Jews are NOT blessed and the Jews DID kill Yeshua. May Yeshua continue to teach our people their true wickedness so that through their own blood in suffering, they may come to everylasting faith in Moshiah.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever should believe in Him should not perish but have eternal life (John 3.16)

68 posted on 03/09/2004 10:48:22 AM PST by SJackson (The Passion: Where were all the palestinians?)
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To: SJackson
Okay, it is HIS Jewish perspective.(He writes in first person plural.)

"We are no longer under the spiritual curse since we are in Yeshua (Romans 8), but because we are Jews, we are still part of the communal curse upon the Jews for their killing of Christ."

70 posted on 03/09/2004 11:07:15 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: SJackson
The Jews are the architects of human wickedness?

Of course not. Wickeness is innate in all of us.

The holocaust was Christ’s vengence on the Jews? Jews brought the ovens on themselves?

How should I know? But I do know that for over 2000 years, the Jews did not have a country of their own or self rule. Also by ignoring Hitler's rise to power and allowing themselves to be disarmed without a fight, they went willingly to the concentration camps.

As a conservative you know that one of the principle beliefs is that you must be responsible for your own actions or in this case, your inaction. If a criminal can be guaranteed that his intended victims are unarmed, then he will be encouraged to victimize them.

What do you think the results of the Warsaw Ghetto massacre would have been if the Jews would have had 50,000 armed men instead of two dozen?

Don't try to read some type of anti-Semitism into it because it simply isn't there. Being a Southern Baptist in Tennessee, I have met few Jews and have no animosity towards them any more than I have against the residents of Lower Moldovia.

73 posted on 03/09/2004 11:24:47 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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hmmmI don't see it that way...Salvation if from the Jews...
If the Jews did not exsist neither would Jesus or Christianity.

I was just watching a large crusade with Benny Himm in India, thousands of Indians learning who Jesus Christ is, they even had people from Zimbabwe who were crying of joy knowing who Jesus is and the power of the Lord and acceptance of Y'SHUA...How come in 3rd world countries Love for Jesus has nothing to do with who killed him?

Watching these people that live in the worst conditions possible poor, un-educated, crying with happiness knowing there is hope in Jesus Christ..The Messiah A Jew from Galiee...To me this is where Christ would be right now (India) (Africa) if he was here not on FR spending days and hours discussing who killed him with people that have every luxury possible...
85 posted on 03/09/2004 12:28:51 PM PST by missyme
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