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Did Jews Kill Jesus? So What?
Vanity | 3/9/2004 | Charles Lipsig (Me)

Posted on 03/09/2004 5:04:23 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian

From all I'm reading, the central question surrounding Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ is whether or not Gibson is portraying the Jews as responsible for the death of Jesus and whether or not this is anti-Semitism. I have a different question, if you'll pardon it coming from a non-Christian who's not seen the movie and isn't terribly familiar with the Christian Bible: So what?

I understand history. I understand that blaming Jews for the death of Jesus was a cause of anti-Semitism in the past. Heck, my grandparents and great-grandparents came to America, fleeing that mindset. I understand that there are still nutcases around -- perhaps entire nutty societies, though not in the U.S. -- who hold this to be the case and say that today's Jews are responsible for what happened almost two-thousand years ago.

But I also understand that this is the United States. This is a nation founded on the belief in the individual. An American cannot legally be punished for the actions of their family (the one exception being parents sometimes being held responsible for the acts of minor children). What a parent does is not held against their children.

By that bedrock belief, to hold the Jews of today responsible for whatever was done by the Jews of Jesus's time -- and even then, by those relatively few Jews who called for Jesus's death (Jews were already rather widely dispersed through the Roman Empire at that time, even if the Diaspora had not yet occurred) -- is un-American. More than blaming children for the actions of parents, it is blaming people of today for what their potential fifty-plus-times-great-grandparents may or may not have done and said. It goes against the American belief of individual responsibility.

Again: So what? Those worried that Gibson's move is anti-Semitic could easily say, "Maybe the Jews killed Jesus. Maybe they didn't. But no one can be held responsible for what occurred two-thousand years ago." But they don't. Why not?

Take a look at the politics of most of the critics. They're on the political left. And among the views held on the political left is support of affirmative action. Many on the left support slave reparations. Many blame American actions for the acts of 9/11.

In short, most of the left believe in collective guilt. They may not call it that, but penalizing members of certain groups and rewarding others for misdeeds in the past is collective guilt. The left holds individuals guilty for the acts of their ancestors. The time span may be compressed, but the American left has the same anti-individualist mindset that murdered Jews, claiming they were responsible for the death of Jesus.

For the left to confront the possibility that Jews -- not THE Jews, but some Jews -- may have been complicit in the death of Jesus would require them to say that there is no such thing as collective guilt. For a political mindset that has its policies grounded in this same collective guilt, this is an impossible thing to do. Thus, they must attack the movie.

So what? So that.


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To: Sloth
I object to your assertion that our current morality is not as good as the ancient barbaric one. When our soldiers capture an enemy, they do not cut his head off. Or at least the concept of cutting somebody's head off is repugnent o most contemporary human. It was routinely practiced in the Moseic era.
121 posted on 03/10/2004 7:31:18 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: Northern Yankee
Take a look at the politics of most of the critics. They're on the political left. And among the views held on the political left is support of affirmative action. Many on the left support slave reparations.

Very interesting article. Did you catch Frank Rich on Imus this morning? He's not through attacking Mel Gibson and Bill O'Reilly.

(I was out to dinner with friends last night, and 2 will be seeing it for the first time this week, and another one for the second time. Everyone I talk to feel the need to see it before Easter.)

122 posted on 03/10/2004 11:11:01 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: SJackson
Well I do understand what you say, and I know with the many many opinions of people defining who is, who is open for a no win debate most of the time, I guess if you have good intentions are doing the best you can to honor G-d, respect your neighbors, and be a good steward, the Ultimate Authority will end up defining who and what you truly are...:-)
123 posted on 03/10/2004 5:52:58 PM PST by missyme
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To: missyme
if you have good intentions are doing the best you can to honor G-d, respect your neighbors, and be a good steward, the Ultimate Authority will end up defining who and what you truly are...:-)

Exactly. They make T Shirts about that :>)


124 posted on 03/11/2004 5:14:52 PM PST by SJackson (The Passion: Where were all the palestinians?)
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125 posted on 03/12/2004 4:41:50 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: ambrose
Before Jesus was crucified or even brutally punished, God replaced jesus with another person. Also jesus wasnt a son of god, but a prophet. Thats acording to my relidion.
126 posted on 04/16/2004 9:51:34 PM PDT by amanda99
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To: amanda99; ambrose
Before Jesus was crucified or even brutally punished, God replaced jesus with another person. Also jesus wasnt a son of god, but a prophet. Thats acording to my relidion.

Actually, "amanda", Islam got it wrong, Mo took the teachings of monophysites and made a mish-mashed religion. you want proof that Christ is the son of God, go to my post here
127 posted on 04/22/2004 11:04:30 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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