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Constitutional Ammendment against divorce?? ZOT-TOO LAME FOR CHAT!!

Posted on 03/08/2004 8:35:49 AM PST by jimjones316

Jesus spoke out against divorce, but I can't recall any talk of gays from him himself. Therefore, why is no one trying to outlaw divorce? I'm sure most can agree that in most cases it is morally repulsive, therefore why is it legal? because it is a freedom issue, bottom line. Barry Goldwater would be rolling over in his grave to see REPUBLICANS, the party of freedom, wanting to put restrictive clauses in the constitution, a document that was concieved to GUARANTEE freedoms, not restrict them. I think America needs to just grow up a bit and hopefully these so called "republicans" can remember what it means to be a conservative: some one who wants to let people lead their own lives and for the government to stay out of people's lives.


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To: jimjones316
When you have outlaw judges abandoning the rule of law to grant, at their whim, legality to today's latest fad, and when you have, on top of that, spineless legislators who refuse to hold the outlaw judges accountable, a Constitutional amendment is necessary.
21 posted on 03/08/2004 1:36:54 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: jimjones316
Apparently doesn't understand that the Bible is the living breathing word of God. Fails to mention the laws God gave to Moses (Found in Leviticus). Doesn't sound as if Jesus, who is God, was very "tolerant" of queers at the time. When he required them stoned, I don't think he meant get them high. Sodom and Gemmorah were destroyed by fire and brimstone, and Lots wife was turned into a pilar of salt for simply longing for that lifestyle; Another pro-gay movement by the Lord. Paul mentions in the new testament that being effeminate was a sin for a man, an abomination. He also mentions in Romans that in our time men would be lovers of themselves, and prone to "unnatural" affection. God is eternal and never changes. He is no respector of persons. He does not bend on His hatred of immorality, and sin, one and the same. God's mind was never changed by any man as to how He would deal with sin. Sin leads to death and destruction. God's men have only been able to persuade God to postpond His wrath. Regardless of how anyone FEELS about the subject, God hates homosexuality and will not change. The ones that need to change are the homosexuals. If this offends anyone, I'm sorry, but I do not believe in "gray areas" when it comes to morality. The only thing I agree with on this post is that divorce is immoral. Don't get me started on that one.
22 posted on 03/08/2004 3:18:04 PM PST by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Now, if I had the name Jim Jones, I'd certainly have been aware of the notoriety. Plus the biblical reference?

Oh no, no reason to be suspicious.

Michael miserable failureMoore

23 posted on 03/08/2004 4:04:50 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: jimjones316
Well, Jim, Jesus didn't say anything about not sleeping with one's sister or brother, either, but I think I'm pretty sure what His opinion is about such activity. Ditto for any number of moral transgressions that are clearly wrong but not specifically addressed by the Lord during His time on earth.
You've been trolling through Democratic Underground too long. You're regurgitating their rhetoric over there almost word for word.
What amuses me the most is when someone like JimJones (strange name to choose!) claims to lament the lost golden days of Barry Goldwater's GOP; those who claim such are almost always devout liberal Democrats whom have suddenly "discovered" some things they like about Barry Goldwater's libertarian positions when it suits their ideological needs.
24 posted on 03/08/2004 4:04:54 PM PST by A Jovial Cad ('In vino veritas!')
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To: jimjones316
Barry Goldwater would be rolling over in his grave to see REPUBLICANS, the party of freedom, wanting to put restrictive clauses in the constitution, a document that was concieved to GUARANTEE freedoms, not restrict them.

Yeah. Good ol' Barry ended up pro-sodomy and pro-abortion. He wanted total liberty for a mother wanting to murder her unborn child. After all, this is the cornerstone of American freedom. That plus the freedom of consensual adults to sodomize.

25 posted on 03/08/2004 7:17:59 PM PST by findingtruth
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To: jimjones316
Did Jesus favor a constitutional amendment to outlaw divorce?
26 posted on 03/09/2004 4:11:19 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: jimjones316
Actually the Christ did speak against infidelity , and that as a cause of divorce.

Divorce has always been allowed under the Orthodox church.

THIS is what scares the trolls

H.J. Res. 56 and S.J. Res. 26
Amendment Text:

Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman.
Neither this Constitution or the constitution of any State, nor state or federal law,
shall be construed to require that marital status or the legal incidents thereof be conferred
upon unmarried couples or groups
.



27 posted on 03/10/2004 1:02:31 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Darksheare
However, it is not. What is considered moral and immoral changes over time. Out of genuine curiosity, on what basis do you define morality and immorality? In the end, it appears that while many people draw upon the Bible, they generally tend to base it on the standards of the time. For example, many things that are acceptable in terms of dress and behavior of women was once regarded as immoral. Standards change over time. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.
28 posted on 03/10/2004 3:32:00 AM PST by ElizabethP
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To: ElizabethP
Umm.. YES immorality IS immorality regardless of what century you live in.
Sorry, troll, nice attempt at a punt return.

ElizabethP
Since Mar 10, 2004
29 posted on 03/10/2004 5:02:29 PM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for today: The penguins are after me! The Penguins are after me! The penguins are...)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Returned at #28 as ElizabethP.
Check it out..
30 posted on 03/10/2004 5:03:21 PM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for today: The penguins are after me! The Penguins are after me! The penguins are...)
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To: ElizabethP; hellinahandcart; trussell; MEG33; MeekOneGOP; petuniasevan; Hillarys nightmare; ...
Leftists have decried marriage as patriarchal and misogynist and controlling, a heinous scourge, a throwback of a thoroughly unenlightened era, blah blah blah, yet nowadays all of a sudden they think marriage is just hunky-dory.

Your thoughts?
31 posted on 03/10/2004 5:16:24 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: JoJo Gunn; ElizabethP
Your thoughts?

Next up ??

-- Why can't I have three wives/husbands ??

-- I want to marry my pet crocodile. We're in love !

-- _______________________________________________
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX(fill in the blank)

_______________________________________________

If I had to choose between those folks that are opposed to gay marriage and:

-- the Vigilante mayor of San Francisco illegally giving out marriage licenses to same-sex couples

-- the mayor of New Palze, NY (ditto above)

-- the folks in that New Mexico county (ditto above)

-- the folks in that Oregon county (ditto above)

-- the city of Asbury Park, N.J. (ditto above)

-- the folks filing the lawsuit in Florida suing for same-sex marriages

-- (whoever I've left out doing the same)

-- The Faggachusetts Court telling the legislature they MUST write a law APPROVING gay marriage.

... I'll take those opposed to gay marriage. I am opposed to same-sex marriage myself.

I fault the MAYORS taking blatantly ILLEGAL actions (Vigilante actions) and LIBERAL judges not making decisions based on the law, etc. These people should be dealt with HARSHLY. Judges should be impeached and thrown out of office. Legal action should be taken against mayors NOT upholding the laws/going AGAINST the law.

I don't FAVOR an amendment on such a thing, but given the situation of out-of-control judges and mayors, what other remedy is there ? I don't see another way.

So until I see an EFFECTIVE alternative remedy, I would support the amendment.


32 posted on 03/10/2004 7:30:59 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Did you see that article about the "Reverend" Sharpton asking church people not to make an issue of this? A man turns his back on his core beliefs (whatever his are ) just to pander for votes?

How could anyone trust a person who would sell out civilization for the short term "gain" of supposed safety of his Party?

33 posted on 03/10/2004 7:46:05 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: MeekOneGOP
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092690/posts
34 posted on 03/10/2004 7:54:02 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: Darksheare
So you provide no argument except to say that you are right?

How do you determine what morals are relative and what morals are not? Why do moral codes governing gender roles change over time? Why is it that at one time women were blatantly oppressed and now it is considered immoral do so? Why was it that racism was promoted in the form of slavery, while it is now denounced?

How do YOU define what is and isn't moral?
35 posted on 03/10/2004 8:06:00 PM PST by ElizabethP
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To: JoJo Gunn
No, but I can sure believe it.


"If I can slap this donkey I can make it kick George
Bush out of the White House."--Al Sharpton


36 posted on 03/11/2004 7:07:04 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Spin the Democrap Wheel of Misfortune!

(Did you make that?)

37 posted on 03/11/2004 10:25:37 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: JoJo Gunn
hehe !

No, I 'borrowed' that one ;^)


38 posted on 03/11/2004 10:34:59 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: ElizabethP
I did provide an arguement.
You haven't bothered to address it.
39 posted on 03/11/2004 5:14:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for today: The penguins are after me! The Penguins are after me! The penguins are...)
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To: ElizabethP
OH, nice that you haven't bothered to respond to anyone else, just me.
Thanks troll, I feel special.
40 posted on 03/11/2004 5:14:43 PM PST by Darksheare (Fortune for today: The penguins are after me! The Penguins are after me! The penguins are...)
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