No, I think your emotions are getting the better of you and you are jumping to conclusions that I am not proposing. I am interested in the people who committed the atrocities, much as the movie is interested in the people who betrayed Yeshua. What religion did the people who committed the atrocities belong to, not according to you, but according to themselves or conventions at the time ?
If you say pagan simply because they were ungodly atrocities then we lose some historical accuracy. If you contend that the Holocaust was carried out by pagans, was the Inquisition also carried out by pagans, the Crusades ?
I can live with whatever definition you wish to use as long as it is consistent.
I am perfectly willing to accept the truth that some Jews were responsible for the betrayal and death of Yeshua of Nazareth. They were either willingly involved or did nothing to stop it. I hold the Romans primarily responsible for the deed but the Jews should have protected him and never delivered him to the Gentiles.
I appreciate your interest in accuracy. The inquisition was carried out by some Spanish Jesuits. If the Jesuits were circumcised, we cannot say they were Jews. (If a Nazi or two was baptized, we cannot say they were Christians.)The Jesuits were not bent on the destruction of Christianity. (Hitler was bent on the destruction of Christianity.) The Jesuits may have been born pagan but were acting as Jesuits. (Hitler may have been born into a "Christian" family but was acting as a pagan.)
This really isn't hard to understand.
No, I think your emotions are getting the better of you and you are jumping to conclusions that I am not proposing.
Your implications were clear. Perhaps you could explain the purpose of your questions if they were innocent?
Thank you for this reply, and please forgive my Christian brothers. They way I see it, Christians are defensive about this film in much the same way as Jews are defensive about the responsibility of Yeshua's execution. I say this because of a trend of general hostility towards religious faith from secular circles. Personally, I can see how Jews are made nervous by a highly-publicized Passion play, because it often stirred up emotions of those Christians watching and that lead to trouble. On the other hand, I believe supporters of the film neither mean to inflame hatred against the Jews nor see the film edited due to political correctness.
As a general sentiment, few nations have embraced Jews as a people and Judaism as a faith with as much brotherly love as the United States. Though there are a few crackpots out there, but the vast majority of Christians in this country will not carry torches and pitchforks down to the neighborhood synagogue. That having been said, I can make no such claims about other parts of the world. It may be possible for terrorists to use it as a propaganda tool, but I speculate this would be limited in scope. There are plenty of other anti-semitic sources far more effective on radical audiences. I would guess the the impact of this film where Judaism is concerned will be to stoke the desire for conversion among American Christians, especially among those who are already so inclined.
This is getting off the topic of the thread but from my personal upbringing I understand that Judaism cannot accept Yeshua as Messiah for the simple reason that we do not now have peace on earth. My family is religiously split between Jewish and Christian but we are not divided as a family and therefore on a personal basis I believe Jews are brothers, both in faith and in heritage. I do not easily stomach Christians who believe Jews are ripe for conversion. Indeed I get the more I lean towards Judaism for a number of lengthy and complex reasons not the least of which is that Yeshua was Jewish and taught the Torah and observed Passover. Though this may seem to be heresy to some, I believe that Christians should be more Jewish, not less. How can someone claim to follow in the footsteps of Jesus yet at the same time reject Judaism?