[Sam Cree]

There is a real nice Grey Havens picture on my profile page, painted by John Howe, who helped with the films.

"They only set out after sundown; but if any keen-eyed observer from that shore had watched one of those ships he might have seen that it never became hull down but dwindled only by distance until it vanished in the twilight: it followed the straight road to the true West and not the bent road of the earth's surface. As it vanished it left the physical world."

[Ramius]

"...never became hull down..."

Interesting. never noticed that before.