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Nazism is Socialism
The Free Market ^ | Sept 2001 | Adam Young

Posted on 01/30/2004 12:42:48 AM PST by GeronL

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So much for the liberals who keep calling Nazi's "right-wingers"

This should be sent to all the talk show hosts...

Interesting stuff

1 posted on 01/30/2004 12:42:49 AM PST by GeronL
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To: JohnHuang2; Sabertooth; mhking; Travis McGee; cajungirl
A history lesson you won't get in school. Plus something to print and hand out to your leftist friends.
2 posted on 01/30/2004 12:43:46 AM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: GeronL
Thanks for the ping, amigo
3 posted on 01/30/2004 12:44:25 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Its amazing what you can learn from the Mises.org website... even if you can't agree with them 100% on politics. They are really good when it comes to economics.
4 posted on 01/30/2004 12:46:32 AM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: The Bat Lady
Synchronicity-with-our-earlier-converstion PING....
5 posted on 01/30/2004 1:35:21 AM PST by TheSarce
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To: TheSarce
There are dozens of great articles like this on the mises.org website... I agree with them on economics.. their Free Market newsletters are all available on the website. Its a great resource, lots of good stuff there.
6 posted on 01/30/2004 2:13:52 AM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: GeronL
Yep!!!

Ayn Rand once wrote that the end-point for liberals is either communism or Nazism.

Either way - when confroned with reality, socialists in the past seem to like killing people in large numbers when their dreams fall flat.
7 posted on 01/30/2004 2:32:43 AM PST by The Raven
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There is a saying that true communism will have a very short ending.

Production ends, people starve.

Hey, FR has been mentioned in several newspaper articles lately, I just did a google search...

8 posted on 01/30/2004 2:38:34 AM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: GeronL
Excellent post. Bookmarked.
9 posted on 01/30/2004 3:42:23 AM PST by 11B3 (I support post-term abortion on demand for leftists, especially if we could demand it.)
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To: GeronL; Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; ...
This is something that needs to go in everyone's library/bookmark list...

Thanks for posting it!!!!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

10 posted on 01/30/2004 5:53:35 AM PST by mhking
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To: GeronL
bttt. Good Stuff.
11 posted on 01/30/2004 6:07:29 AM PST by SquirrelKing (a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: The Raven
I always thought killing people in large numbers was their dream.
12 posted on 01/30/2004 6:26:11 AM PST by xp38
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To: GeronL
I watched a History Channel program on the SS that I had on tape the other day. By the end of the program, they stopped referring to them as Nazis and constantly called them "Right-Wingers". It could have been an interesting documentary, but that just made me sick. Those people were anything BUT conservatives. Their name is proof of that.
13 posted on 01/30/2004 6:46:00 AM PST by JustPlainJoe
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To: GeronL; imintrouble; E.G.C.
. . . It is high time to discard, once and for all, these most harmful illusions about the possibility of “unity” or “peace” with the Dittmanns and the Crispiens, with the Right wing of the German Independent Social-Democratic Party, the British Independent Labour Party, the French Socialist Party, etc. It is high time for all revolutionary workers to purge their parties of these trends, and form genuinely united Communist parties of the proletariat.

N. Lenin

September 24, 1920

Letter To
The German and the French Workers
. . . which makes clear that Lennin applied the term "right wing" to other socialists who were not sufficently militant.

And as Hayek bemoans in a preface to later editions of his classic The Road to Serfdom, American usage of the word "liberal" means "very nearly the opposite" of what Hayek meant, writing in Britain. That, to my understanding, is because the brand name "socialism" didn't sell in America as it did in Europe, so the socialists rebranded themselves "liberals"--thereby taking from those of us whom Americans now call "conservatives" what Hayek called "a nearly indispensible word."

"Liberal" socialists and "conservative" advocates of freedom to change are really a singular American confusion. And the confusion of "right wing" versions of socialism with--of all things--American traditions of freedom, is of a piece with that. And no accident. Indeed the very root "social" in "socialism" is deceitful; socialists systematically conflate "society" with "government." They do so because "society" is a nice, cooperative word whereas "government"--their actual intent--is coersion. And they do it so unremittingly that we have learned to check our wallets whenever we hear the word "social." Notwithstanding the fact that social interaction--e.g., free markets--is what we stand for. But they have essentially evicerated the word.

Such systematic confusion betrays the existence of a systematic effort to control the language and thus to control thought--that is, Newspeak. The natural question is, "How could Newspeak possibly be instituted in free America?" I believe that I am converging on the answer in this FR thread. A sort of conspiracy, actually driven by obvious commercial incentives, operates in plain sight in journalism. Anyone with one eye open has seen it, but (surprise!) it is hard to give it a name.


14 posted on 01/30/2004 6:51:45 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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BTTT!!!!!!
15 posted on 01/30/2004 7:19:15 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: GeronL
This "law" established that only Aryan Germans who could prove the purity of their bloodline back to 1800 could own a farm.

Every farm up to 308 acres was declared a hereditary estate-it could not be sold, divided, mortgaged or foreclosed on for debt. With the death of its owner, it would pass to his nearest male relative, who in turn was obligated to provide an income and education for his relatives. The peasant farmer was called a bauer or peasant, an "honored title" that he forfeited if he broke the "peasant honor code"-that is, if he stopped farming.

The Old Testament can I believe be used to suport the idea of, as law of the founding era put it, holding property "in fee tail." Precisely how the feudal estates were held together--the oldest son inherited the entire real estate of his father with the proviso that he had to pass the entire real estate down to his oldest son. Which of course excludes the idea of using the property as collateral for a loan; it would be illegal to relinquish ownership of it.

The inheritor of such land might easily be "property poor," and (according to Dumas Malone's biography of Jefferson) it was common for members of the House of Burgess of Virginia to get a law passed which allowed a member to sell a particular parcel of land to escape the problem. But Jefferson, when he fell into the clutches of that trap, cut the Gordian Knot--he pushed through the House of Burgess the following law:

Holders of property in fee tail

shall be holders of property in fee simple.

Problem solved. Not evaded, but abolished.

The irony of Hitler's version is that it pretty clearly turns the landowner into a de facto serf.

16 posted on 01/30/2004 7:31:00 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: GeronL
INTREP - WV: Marxism and Socialism
17 posted on 01/30/2004 9:37:03 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: GeronL
good read. bookmarking.
18 posted on 01/30/2004 3:09:04 PM PST by King Prout ("Islam" is to "Peace" as a Zen Koan is to a binary logical "if-then" statement)
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I always thought killing people in large numbers was their dream

Under 'pure' socialism, production stops and people stave, experiment over.

19 posted on 01/30/2004 5:12:35 PM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
fascinating stuff
20 posted on 01/30/2004 5:13:00 PM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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