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In reality it is nothing more than an unlimited permanent version of the H1-B (indentured servent) program, but with no limits or restrictions of any sort."

Yes it is. But some people will never ever believe Pres. Bush could do anything wrong, or hurtful to this country. Maybe they should find out about the conditions of programmers working and living in India. Outsourcing is leading to a new type of slavery.

Outsourcing didn't make a new form of slavery.

The H-1B program already did that here. They live in apts. crammed in with one another, they work incredible amounts of overtime with no pay for it, and they take work from Americans because they are so willing to work for half to one-third what a comparable American would expect.

Another fallacy is their education. Prof. Matloff has shown the phoney-baloney that goes on with their "tech schools", and they come here, claiming to have programming languages that they've never seen, and have their buddies teach them at night. Frankly, because they're so cheap, a company like Sun can hire two of them - one to do the programming and the other to debug it.

Makes me sick.

The only work that is going to be reserved for Americans is that DoD and defense/Military work that required clearances, and even then, in Texas they discovered pockets of them, working on work that had been conveniently "declassified" because only the data that would run through it would make the system classified. It turned out that this was patently false. But it wasn't the first time that game was played in the name of expediency. I know of two projects at TRW that were declassified so that they could be worked on because Clintoon had already stripped the clearance processing people out of the agency they were in, put the responsibility of processing clearances in OMB with no money and no people to do the job. That's when it started to take a year to get a basic Secret - which is now up to 2 years. Shoot, I've heard of several folks at the FBI who have been waiting for a Secret and it's been 3 years. Meanwhile, they read the Wash. Post and eat twinkies, because they sure can't do the work they were hired for.

Unfortunately, fixing the clearance processing problem is something that hasn't come into Bush's field of focus, so companies are hiring from the pool of those who are currently cleared and that means that salaries will go up, they have to offer "referral bonuses" and they are not able to hire the brightest and the best - just those who have the clearances hung around their neck.

Lucky devils - I wish I were one of them. I could be working.........

TNT

Outsourcing is leading to a new type of slavery.

Yes and the rapid entropy to Third World Status here at home.