To: general_re
When such dubious assumptions buried in the argument are crucial for the support of the conclusion, the argument is bad and can be very misleading. Rand identified what may be a variant of this, and called it the "fallacy of the stolen concept." An example is the Marxist mantra that "property is theft." The whole idea that theft is wrong can't be maintained without acceptance of the concept of property.
4 posted on
12/29/2003 9:02:38 AM PST by
PatrickHenry
(Hic amor, haec patria est.)
To: PatrickHenry
Interesting - the statement itself is self-contradictory.
5 posted on
12/29/2003 9:12:40 AM PST by
general_re
("You shouldn't treat people like objects. They aren't that valuable." - P.J. O'Rourke)
To: PatrickHenry
An example is the Marxist mantra that "property is theft." ... Of what? Of itself? Good one on Ayn! Never noticed the fallacy there.
7 posted on
12/29/2003 10:14:47 AM PST by
VadeRetro
To: PatrickHenry
'Property is theft'
Can't one just say, 'No it isn't'?
Or, 'Prove it?'
In regards to the above discussion these are what I call rhetorical questions, or statements disguised as a question.
Anytime somebody says, 'Don't you think that...' I say, that is not a question. You are making a statment. Make it if you like. I am not interested in making a counter-statement.
11 posted on
12/29/2003 6:49:10 PM PST by
squarebarb
(post number 219, just trying to get my numbers up)
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