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I hated Rotk (vanity ranting thread) ((spoiler alert))
ME | Today- december 18th, 2003 | Me

Posted on 12/18/2003 9:52:13 AM PST by Fire-Breathing_Freeper

I was soooo dissappointed with the return of the king. It started out ok (except for the first chapter) but after Gollum knoks out Sam in the craks of doom it got really weird, corny and just plain bad.

My list of reasons; 1. Everyone knew and understood Gollum/Smeagol without having or wanting to watch him murder Deagol. It was totally sick and unnecessary.

2. Frodo was somewhat 'normal' at the end of TTT, and in the beggining of ROTK Frodo is like corrupted and half dead. The transition from good to corrupted was divided in to threes instead of being smootly worked out.

3. Theoden being relctuant about comming to Gondor's aid. Then when the beacon is lit, he is like Yea, like you even have to ask me to come.

4. Everything about Denethor. Mostly bad, a little good.

5. The way Denethor treated Faramir. While it was close to the books it didn't have the same emotional feel. Alot of Rotk didn't envok the same feelings as the book did.

6. The Gollum and the lembas scene. Sam didn't have to be sent away for the effectiveness of Frodo being corrupted.

7. The women and children in Minas Tirith. It made the city look totally unpopulated.

8. When Eowyn gave Merry his armor and then she said 'why cant he fight for those he loves' She looked like it was her underlying motive. Instead of only wanting to die because Aragorn didn't love her and she thought that Aragorn might see her worth if she died in battle.

9. Arwen dying is Sauron isn't destroyed. That was so lame and unnecessary.

10. Frodo going into Shelobs lair alone. In the book it was really sweet how Frodo and Sam went in together. All the tenderness was ripped from that scene, again not envoking the same emotions.

11. Frodo ran around way too long in Shelobs lair. Ok we all know it's really a creepy place and Frodo is scared but the scene does not need to be drawn out too long.

12. How Denethor only cared that Faramir was gravely wounded because his line would end was not as good as it could ahve been. I'm not sure what could have been done differently but something should have.

13. How the dead glowed bright florescent green. And how they looked like soldiers of rohan and gondor when they were supposed to be another race.

14. Denethor at the pyre. It was a little to dramatic again not invoking the same feelings, and drawn out too long,

15. After Frodo was stung he didn't go down soon enough and it was just nasty.

16. I also thought Sam and Shelob fought too long. I think it would have been just as affective if a third of it was cut.

17. When gandalf and Pippin were talking about dying. I loved the scene in and of itself, but just moments before Gandalf was the feerless leader and was directing the men to stand there ground. Then he like sitting in despair and saying death is not that bad. I'm not sure it needed to be there, at all or at least not in that part.

18. It slightly bugged me when the dead army went into Minas Tirith. Slightly.

19. The battle between the witchking and Eowyn. It wasn't one sided enough. and again didn't envoke the same feelings or odds of winning.

20. The orcs in the tower died too quick.

21. When Sam finds Frodo in the tower, all the tenderness and love that was shown in the book was trashed and what was left not worthy of Frodo and Sam.

22. How It was strongly suggested that if Frodo and Sam were hiding behind the rocks that they would not be scene. totally contradicting what Saruman said in fotr.

23. How Frodo was so weary he couldnt walk and then suddenyl gets up and starts running. If we just staggered that would have been fine.

24. Gollum fought with the invisible Frodo for way too long, It made me want to laugh, which again didn't envoke the same feelings as the book.

25. Gollum in the lava.

26. Sauron died too slowly.

27. The orc armies being swallowed up.

28. When the eagles were carring Frodo and they were showing him flying over the lava, That was sooo cheesy and lame! I think that was one of the things that bugged me most.

29. How Arwen showed up. It could and should have been done more ceremoniously.

30. Gandalf's wagon

31. Bilbo looked like an orc.

32. The Grey Havens looked animated and fake.

33. Frodo didn't dry when he left his friends.


TOPICS: TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: lordoftherings; returnoftheking
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To: Fire-Breathing_Freeper
Regarding the first complaint, I think you're absolutely correct (if you disregard the 5% self-blinded moron - uh, I mean, uninformed - population)...but it was priceless to see Smeagol as Michael Jackson. Am I the only one who noticed that? You know, about two-thirds of the way into his "decomposition" into Gollum - right before (as I remember) he eats the fish, which was incredibly gross, didn't need to see that either....
181 posted on 01/05/2004 4:44:59 PM PST by SgtSolomon (AKA The-Total-FReep-Newb)
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