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1 posted on 12/16/2003 5:37:52 AM PST by SLB
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2 posted on 12/16/2003 5:39:05 AM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: SLB; Lil'freeper; hellinahandcart
Funny how Colson didn't mention the drivel coming out of Viggo Mortenson's mouth at the CANSWER rallies, or the long and uncalled for anti-war rant on the latest box set, nor about how the guy that played Gandalf thought Sam and Frodo's relationship was a good thing for "gay rights."
3 posted on 12/16/2003 5:43:18 AM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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To: SLB
Cool!!
4 posted on 12/16/2003 5:46:36 AM PST by kb2614 (".....We've done nothing and were all out of ideas!!")
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To: SLB
Good paralells between LOTR and present life.
Important to realize Islam is only Saruman and his orcs. There is still another wave coming after them.

Stronger and even more evil.

But hey, Hillary makes a great Grima Wormtongue.
6 posted on 12/16/2003 5:59:56 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (It's not a blanket amnesty, it's amnistia del serape!)
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To: SLB
Myth Meets Real Life

SARUMAN

ORCS

THEODEN

HELM'S DEEP

EOWYN


10 posted on 12/16/2003 6:14:12 AM PST by Alouette (Personne me plumerá)
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To: SLB
Its a nice tribute to a good guy actor...what a pleasant change from what screed most of them excrete..
Gimli...you da dwarf
11 posted on 12/16/2003 6:14:23 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: SLB
Amen Gimli son of Gloin!
21 posted on 12/16/2003 6:39:38 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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ping
23 posted on 12/16/2003 6:42:25 AM PST by MrConfettiMan (Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?)
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PEACE IN MIDDLE EARTH IN OUR TIME MINAS TIRITH (Gondor News Network) -

Thousands of peace activists took to the streets of Minas Tirith and other cities of Middle Earth today to protest what they termed a rush to war with Mordor. "We need more time for diplomacy," said a key member of the Middle-Earth Security Council, Saruman the White. "I am not convinced by the evidence presented by my esteemed colleague, Gandalf the Grey, or that the Dark Lord Sauron presents an imminent danger to the peoples of the West."

Many of the people protesting war in Mordor agreed with Saruman's remarks. "Sauron says he's destroyed his Rings of Mass Destruction (RMD) and that's good enough for me," said one fellow carrying a sign that said "Elrond is a Balrog." Another demonstrator urged, "Give the RMD inspectors more time. There's no reason to rush to any judgment just because Mount Doom is belching lava, the Dark Tower is rebuilt, and Osgiliath has been decimated." A third protester piped up, "I haven't heard a single bit of convincing evidence connecting the Nazgul with Sauron. I think they destroyed Osgiliath on their own initiative without any support from Sauron. Besides, it's understandable they're angry with Gondor. We haven't done nearly as much for the Orcs and Goblins and Easterlings as the Nazgul and Sauron have. It's understandable they throw their support to them. It's our own fault really."

As the protesters continued their march through the city, they chanted, "No blood for Mount Doom," voicing a common sentiment that the leaders of the Western peoples are really seeking to get their hands on the powerful Mount Doom, where the One Ring of Power was allegedly forged. Gandalf the Grey was unavailable for comment. A spokesman said he was in an undisclosed underground location, which sources have revealed is codenamed: Moria.



Found this on FR back in Feb.
24 posted on 12/16/2003 6:44:42 AM PST by OXENinFLA ( I find it very interesting that when the heat got on, you dug yourself a hole and you crawled in it)
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Ring Ping!!
There and Back Again: The Journeys of Flat Frodo

Anyone wishing to be added to or removed from the Ring-Ping list, please don't hesitate to let me know.

28 posted on 12/16/2003 8:20:58 AM PST by ecurbh (There's gonna be a hobbit wedding!)
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To: SLB
Bump for John Rhys-Davies.... he offsets Viggo the Ido and Gandalf the Radical Gay.

I'm still planning on seeing the flick though - probaly on Wednesday.
35 posted on 12/16/2003 11:27:41 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: SLB
Apparently each race in Tolken's books represents earthly nations.

I figure the Hobits are english..I'm not sure of the rest.
36 posted on 12/16/2003 11:29:38 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: SLB
BRAVO! But I thought we were supposed to boycott ROTK because Viggo Mortensen is an ideological idiot against the war. < /sarcasm >

"In Tolkien’s language, it’s the Orcs, Uruk-hai, and Sauron."

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37 posted on 12/16/2003 11:32:16 AM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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Ping!
40 posted on 12/16/2003 12:13:52 PM PST by sweetliberty (Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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I understand why the thread I posted was locked up, but why was this thread moved to chat? It's not just some stupid movie thread, there's some very profound stuff about the WoT in here.

Respectfully request that this be moved to news/activism or that my thread be unlocked.
44 posted on 12/16/2003 2:09:19 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: SLB
Good place to post, there is a new bio of Tolkien that just came out, here at Amazon although I found it at a local bookstore.

Tolkien and the Great War : The Threshold of Middle-earth

"To be caught in youth by 1914 was no less hideous an experience than in 1939 . . . by 1918 all but one of my close friends were dead."

So J.R.R. Tolkien responded to critics who saw The Lord of the Rings as a reaction to the Second World War. Tolkien and the Great War tells for the first time the full story of how he embarked on the creation of Middle-earth in his youth as the world around him was plunged into catastrophe. This biography reveals the horror and heroism that he experienced as a signals officer in the Battle of the Somme and introduces the circle of friends who spurred his mythology into life. It shows how, after two of these brilliant young men were killed, Tolkien pursued the dream they had all shared by launching his epic of good and evil. This is the first substantially new biography of Tolkien since 1977, meticulously researched and distilled from his personal wartime papers and a multitude of other sources. John Garth argues that the foundation of tragic experience in the First World War is the key to Middle-earth's enduring power. Tolkien used his mythic imagination not to escape from reality but to reflect and transform the cataclysm of his generation. While his contemporaries surrendered to disillusionment, he kept enchantment alive, reshaping an entire literary tradition into a form that resonates to this day.

45 posted on 12/16/2003 2:10:26 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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Joey Ivansco /AJC In Atlanta and elsewhere Tuesday, costumed 'Lord of the Rings' fans lined up to see the trilogy.
52 posted on 12/17/2003 2:32:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SLB
Wow. Always did like this guy.
53 posted on 12/17/2003 4:43:30 AM PST by SkyPilot
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...under assault by radical Islam.

This comment by the English actor is somewhat borne out in the film itself by the creators, in my opinion, at least from my viewing it yesterday on opening day.

First, there is a comment early about "they have already taken the West Bank!"

It may have been minor by itself, but I quickly made a Palestinian tie in my head as I continued to watch the movie.

Second, I could not help to notice the "allies" of the Orc's, that came by ship, sure looked and were dressed like Muslim Pirates, headdresses and all.

Lastly, the riders of the "Oliphants", these huge elephant beasts that came and swept the good guys like so many blades of grass with their tusks. If anyone wants to tell me that all the guys writing these beasts weren't Muslim lookalikes as well, please do ..

I don't know, perhaps it's me, but I think there was some strong not only Christian message in this film but also a very strong tie on the Muslim world as being the home, creator and host of so much evil.

Perhaps there may be some political correct up cry about this from our Muslim cousins. Personally, I applaud the writers and directors for these insertions and do hope they were made intentionally!!!

Anyone catch any others?

By the by, a very enjoyable movie!!!!

60 posted on 12/18/2003 5:45:31 PM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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