[John O]

reading his emnail I'd say he's trapped in liberal delusion and will never listen to anything you say. The best you can hope for is that he'll be able to function well enough to live but not well enough to care to vote.

Wish him a happy hannakah and let him spout.

[livianne]

reading his emnail I'd say he's trapped in liberal delusion and will never listen to anything you say. The best you can hope for is that he'll be able to function well enough to live but not well enough to care to vote.

oh he votes - he and my mother are supporting dean. they're probably throwing a party about gore's endorsement - they were all for him as president. i suppose my desire to respond in a well thought out way has less to do with expecting to change his mind (i don't) and more to do with finally being at a point in my political awareness, interest and involvement to be able to hear his arguments for what they are and not letting him pin me into a corner like he used to. I'm the sole conservative in the family (though all my inlaws are conservative) and I just get so fed up with the garbage I hear.

for the record, i am actually very close with my parents despite our ideological differences. we can totally separate our disagreements in these areas from our relationship as family.