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Footage NASA never wanted you to see (video link)
moontruth.com ^ | July 20, 1969 | Moontruth

Posted on 11/19/2003 3:31:13 PM PST by mikegi

If you're at this page because you've just seen an amazing piece of footage showing the Apollo 11 moonlanding to have been shot in a studio, then read on. If you haven't seen the clip, click the link below, and prepare to be amazed.

At 4:17 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, on July 20, 1969 Neil Armstrong was seen on television by millions of people around the world apparently walking on the surface of the moon, and making one giant leap into the pages of history. BUT DID HE? Conspiracy theories abound on the Internet.

The piece of footage you just saw answers the question - but raises a lot of others. We don't know the answers to all these questions - but here is what we do know:

1) Is it real? Yes. This footage was clearly shot in a studio, and is clearly meant to represent the Apollo 11 moon landing. The attention to detail is staggering. The intention is clearly to fool viewers into believing that it is genuine.

2) Is it conclusive? No. There is no proof that because this was shot in a studio, the moon landing was necessarily faked. But we do know that the original non-digital footage was destroyed and that certain (dangerous) people are very angry that this clip has leaked.

3) How did we get it? We did not get it directly from a NASA source. Our source is well placed to vouch for the authenticity of the footage and had links with the makers of 2 recent documentaries, one for the BBC and one for CNN about the moonlanding conspiracies. We cannot possibly reveal his identity, and probably never will be able to. His position is more dangerous than you might imagine.

4) Why haven't I seen it before? The footage has been buried for over 30 years. All the original stock, except this cut, was destroyed. We have had it for over 2 years and in that time have (anonymously) approached almost every large TV network owner to sell the rights. Without exception they were interested and offered to buy it. At one point they were also Then, also without exception they changed their minds and started to try to find out who we were. At that point we stopped dealing with them. It was scary as hell.

5) How, when and where was it made? It was made in 1965, judging by the camera it was shot on - an Ikegami Tube Camera. We have evidence that the footage was shot outside the US - possibly in Europe, by a foreign crew.

6) Who is inside the suit? Not one of the original astronauts. In fact, they are totally unaware that this footage was ever shot. The guy in the suit is an actor called Symond Lewis.

7) Why is it on the Internet and not on TV? See point 4

8) What is NASA's reaction to this footage? They have refused to comment. But we have recently heard that they are stepping up efforts on a huge PR campaign to convince us all that the Apollo moonlandings all took place.


TOPICS: Humor
KEYWORDS: apollo11; bartsibrel; idiot; moron; troll; zotbait
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To: Analyzing Inconsistencies
A pretty good friend of mine whose brother worked at NASA was one of the staunchest AMERICAN disbelievers, in fact...

Oh, GOSH REALLY!? A friend of an uncle related to a sister who lived next door? That sort of thing?

I well remember the day in 69 and I can tell you that the only disbelievers that day were outside America-excluding people who, perhaps, substitute shocking statements for their absent personality.

Get real, genius, IT HAPPENED! And if you had to bet your life on it you'd damn well bet that it happened.
81 posted on 11/19/2003 5:22:54 PM PST by TalBlack (Tal, no song means anything without someone else...)
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To: U S Army EOD
It appears AI has something against space exploration in general. NASA's budget is small, comparitively, to that of other Gov't organizations, as I posted earlier. There are far more agencies and programs that waste money, but NASA isn't one of them.
82 posted on 11/19/2003 5:23:35 PM PST by rs79bm (Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
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To: rs79bm
NASA's budget's bigger than all the rest of the world's civilian space agencies COMBINED:

http://www.spaceprojects.com/Chinese-space-program .

Check out how much more cheaply other nations are doing Mars:

http://www.spaceprojects.com/Mars-underachievement

Europe's headed for the Moon comparatively affordably, too.

If NASA was robbing $1.5 million as opposed to $15 billion, I'd still be angry. Thus, comparing NASA's budget to the overall federal one doesn't alleviate my ire much. When's the last time you parted with $1.5 million without feeling irritated?
83 posted on 11/19/2003 5:24:22 PM PST by Analyzing Inconsistencies
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To: Analyzing Inconsistencies
Are you really for real or just the plant for entertainment tonight?????
84 posted on 11/19/2003 5:24:39 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technition screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: rs79bm
>>>There are far more agencies and programs that waste money, but NASA isn't one of them.<<<

PLEASE. I guess you're not aware of:

http://www.spaceprojects.com/x33

or

http://www.spaceprojects.com/iss

for starters...
85 posted on 11/19/2003 5:25:25 PM PST by Analyzing Inconsistencies
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To: U S Army EOD
Right.
86 posted on 11/19/2003 5:25:58 PM PST by Analyzing Inconsistencies
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To: Analyzing Inconsistencies
Like I said, start your own company, come back when you have saved us all.
87 posted on 11/19/2003 5:26:51 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technition screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: rs79bm
And then there is the old saying, "You can cure ignorance but you can't cure stupidity".
88 posted on 11/19/2003 5:29:48 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technition screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
And heaven forbid that you should actually read the facts that are presented to you in the form of external links. Then you'd not get to have as much fun insulting me. Meanwhile, we all remain land-locked.

"If we can go to the Moon, how come we can't go to the Moon?"

Some of us actually care.
89 posted on 11/19/2003 5:31:09 PM PST by Analyzing Inconsistencies
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To: Analyzing Inconsistencies
Depends on which ones you WANT to believe, bubba.
90 posted on 11/19/2003 5:33:33 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technition screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Here's what I believe more than either of the two abovementioned assertions:

"We could probably repay our record high $6.9 trillion dollar national debt with the benefits resulting from less inefficient colonization efforts on the Moon and Mars. Such breakthroughs would pertain to energy production, the biotech sector, robotics, mining, chemistry, and telemedicine, etcetera. One also cannot overlook exploration´s exciting ability to potentially inspire students to eagerly embrace math & science like they did during the Apollo Era when folks like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Amazon.com's Jeff Bezos initially fell in love with such subjects. We could even learn to increasingly view others as fellow Earthlings, not enemies, while we struggle together against the shared
hardships of the unknown."


On a different note, Http://www.Alexa.com's critiques say that high-browed conversations are far less frequent here at Free Republic because of the rampant banning of certain independently thinking participants. I'm still forming an opinion regarding that assessment.
91 posted on 11/19/2003 5:43:25 PM PST by Analyzing Inconsistencies
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To: Analyzing Inconsistencies
Well just jump right in there and start that company and write me from Mars. There is an old Marine Corp recruiting poster that shows this Marine looking at this guy reading a newspaper. He says to the civilian, "We don't read about history, we make it".

So now is your big chance.

(PS: The reason the Marine doesn't like to read about history is probably because most Jarheads can't read).
92 posted on 11/19/2003 5:49:09 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technition screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: rs79bm
FYI, one of the other methods to come close to zero-g is for it to happen like they did for filming Apollo 13 - by using a modified jet. I think the manuever is called a hyperbolic dive but zero-g's are achieved for short periods of time.
93 posted on 11/19/2003 5:58:59 PM PST by jettester
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To: Age of Reason
Actually I've always considered the Laser reflector deployed by the Astronauts the hardest item to fake. Anyone with the right tools can point a powerful Lazer at the landing site and get a return. It's used to measure exact distance from Earth. It could be done today with a robot, but probably not in 65.
94 posted on 11/19/2003 6:20:02 PM PST by simarilian (Scouting is the best place to help raise your kids. Aldrin was an Eagle Scout)
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To: simarilian
But remember, we are faking all the data.
95 posted on 11/19/2003 6:33:11 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Are you irritated with me because I referred to an external site that also quotes a farewell address from a morally-driven Republican president who had considerable military experience?

http://www.spaceprojects.com/Eisenhower

Doesn't Ike's analysis hit uncomfortably close to home regarding our space program?
96 posted on 11/19/2003 6:38:27 PM PST by Analyzing Inconsistencies
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To: jettester; rs79bm
It's called the "Vomit comet" and I believe it generates microgravity for mere 30-45 second spurts at a time. KC-135 is what I think the model number was, and tourist flights on it sell for under $10,000.
97 posted on 11/19/2003 6:40:42 PM PST by Analyzing Inconsistencies
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To: Analyzing Inconsistencies
A KC 135 is the tanker version of the C 135. After Boeing developed the C 135 and the KC 135 with tax dollars, they put seats in it and called it a Boeing 707 which upset McDonald Douglas a little bit since they were trying to develop the DC 8 without tax dollars.

The ride you are talking about is offered by the Russians along with other neat stuff you can do like ride in their fighter planes.

By the way, the Russian and Chinese space programs are not private enterprises.
98 posted on 11/19/2003 6:59:31 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Analyzing Inconsistencies
So tell me what Ike understood about the space program. When he was in office, I don't think NASA even existed. There was some other forerunner of it that was making an attempt to play catch up with the Russians. All of our stuff just kept blowing up on the launch pad.

By the way, Ike did announce we had launched some metal speres out of the pull of gravity toward the sun in 1956. He lied. We did no such thing back then.
99 posted on 11/19/2003 7:05:34 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
How about you reading THIS Marine's comment>>> Who can't read? Bite me. (Said in jest.) My brother joined the Army out of H.S. (1965) Poor guy couldn't spell "cat" so the army, in its wisdom, made him a clerk-typist. Then he REALLY had a brain fart and decided that eating snakes and jumping out of perfectly good airplanes and wearing a Girl-Sprout beanie was more his thing. Go figure.
100 posted on 11/19/2003 8:05:00 PM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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