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The Two Towers Extended DVD -- Blade's Review
Vanity | 15-Nov-03 | Gordian Blade

Posted on 11/15/2003 10:37:25 PM PST by Gordian Blade

I went to my local video store to rent a video for tonight. After rejecting several titles (like Chicago) because I didn't care for the politics of the actors and/or directors, I reluctantly settled on Terminator 3. Like California reluctantly settled on Arnold I suppose.

As I was about to pay, I saw a stack of Two Towers Extended DVD sets on the counter with $28.99 price tags on them. I asked the cashier when those came out, and she said, "I think last month." So I put T3 back on the shelf and put my $28.99 plus tax down on the counter. She had some trouble getting the code into the computer to complete the transaction, but eventually she made it work and I left the store thinking, "Gee, I must have gotten the release date wrong."

I decided to make an experience of it, so I watched FoTR Ex again to prepare myself for TTT Ex. After finishing FoTR, I checked back at the Hobbit Hole to see what everyone else was saying about the new TTT Ex DVD. Nothing. Then I checked around on the net and I was right about the release date, it is supposed to be the 18th. So back to the DVD player I went for the second feature.

Having been immersed in Middle Earth for about 8 hours today, I am happy to report that it was worth the wait to hold off on buying TTT until the extended version was out. (Or not quite officially out.) In a word: WOW!

There are still a few things I'm not thrilled with in the adaptation, but it was a much more satisfying experience than the theatrical release. Here are the many plus points and few minus points in my opinion.

Plus:
1. More of Eowyn (Miranda Otto).
2. More of Gollum’s inner struggle.
3. The Boromir/Faramir/Denethor subplot gets developed.
4. The interaction between Faramir and the hobbits veers back closer to the book.
5. The Huorns make a brief but effective appearance at Helm’s Deep.
6. More quotes and scenes straight from the book, albeit sometimes not exactly at the same time or place.
7. The whole plot seems to flow better with the extra material.

Minus:
1. Warg attack / Aragorn over the cliff is still too much of a departure from the book for me.
2. Frodo going to Osgiliath and encountering a Nazgul is still too much of a departure from the book for me. 3. We still don’t see Saruman as anything other than a minion of Sauron.

Note all of the minus points above were the same in the theatrical release and it seemed to me that the extra material made them a little less objectionable.

Final thoughts: The extra material takes a movie that I thought was very good in the theater and moves it into near-great territory. Now on to Return of the King in December!


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Today luck was on my side to be able to buy TTT Ex before the official release date.
1 posted on 11/15/2003 10:37:26 PM PST by Gordian Blade
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To: Gordian Blade; ecurbh
Hey great review - thanks!

ecurbh and I also got it early through luck or cunning!
Most everyone else will be waiting till Tuesday!

ecurbh - ping the ringers...

(I will comment too on some of the additions in the morning.... Was just up for a brief sleep-walk now.)
2 posted on 11/16/2003 1:12:39 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
ecurbh and I also got it early through luck or cunning!

Dang! were did you find it?

3 posted on 11/16/2003 3:28:08 AM PST by LinnieBeth
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To: 2Jedismom; 300winmag; Alkhin; Alouette; Anitius Severinus Boethius; artios; AUsome Joy; ...

Ring Ping!!
There and Back Again: The Journeys of Flat Frodo

Anyone wishing to be added to or removed from the Ring-Ping list, please don't hesitate to let me know.

4 posted on 11/16/2003 6:45:08 AM PST by ecurbh
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To: Gordian Blade; HairOfTheDog; ecurbh
There are many of us out here who are pea green with envy you know.
5 posted on 11/16/2003 6:51:18 AM PST by Wneighbor (Thorlo Sock company is American and supports US Troops!!!!)
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To: Gordian Blade; Bear_in_RoseBear
Cool! You hit a nice surprise, didn't you?

I wish he would "fix" Faramir, and that absurd "Lookie-Sauron-here-I-am-and-is-THIS-what-you-wanted?" derailing. But it's still a great movie and, even if it is insane, that Frodo/Nazgul scene is *visually* very impressive. (It's when you make the mistake of THINKING about it that it loses its charm! < g >)

I'm looking forward to seeing it!

Dan
6 posted on 11/16/2003 6:53:24 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: HairOfTheDog
Where is it, where is it, precious.
7 posted on 11/16/2003 7:19:20 AM PST by My back yard (It's okay, stay calm, 2 more days is all.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'll be taking kids to see a Cat in the Hat preview on Tueday, so I won't even be seeing it on Tuesday, but I'm glad to hear it's worth the wait.
8 posted on 11/16/2003 7:25:34 AM PST by Rocko
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To: Gordian Blade
OK! Now I am up and ready to talk about this!


~~~Spoilers!~~~

I love the new scenes with Frodo and Sam with the rope and the box of seasonings!

I liked what they did with Denethor and Boromir, and the harsh relationship Denethor and Faramir had. It may play harder on Denethor than was spelled out in the book, but it very much explains Faramir's actions and words, and sets up why Gondor very much ~needs~ Aragorn.

I loved the song of Eowyn at the funeral of Theodrid. It comes across as surprisingly strong where I would have predicted a soft mournful song.

I LOVE THE STEW BIT.... We rolled on the floor laughing.... really well acted by Viggo.

More scenes with trees.... most good! I liked the little homage to Old Man Willow and Bombadil when Merry and Pippin get into trouble.

And the new scene finding Saruman's cache of groceries and pipeweed was fun. I liked the joke "Longbottom leaf from the Shire! Should we share it with treebeard? - No... He prob'ly wouldn't appreciate it, bein' a plant himself and all" or something like that. LOL

Huorns at Helm's Deep! That was cool!

9 posted on 11/16/2003 7:37:59 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: My back yard; LinnieBeth
You guys know I would tell if I could!
10 posted on 11/16/2003 7:43:00 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
You guys know I would tell if I could!

That's ok (grrr) We'll just (im)patiently wait until Tuesday! ;o)

11 posted on 11/16/2003 8:00:58 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Sorry, Suzi. We ~could~ tell you, but of course, then we would have to kill you. ;~D
12 posted on 11/16/2003 8:03:18 AM PST by ecurbh
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To: ecurbh
Sorry, Suzi. We ~could~ tell you, but of course, then we would have to kill you. ;~D

Yeah, yeah!

13 posted on 11/16/2003 8:18:20 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Gordian Blade
I have not seen either extended version and am saving that experience at this point from the theatrical showings of them in December.
14 posted on 11/16/2003 8:19:00 AM PST by Jalapeno
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To: Jalapeno
For anyone who possible doesn't know about the theatrical showings the two weeks prior of these extended versions should check it out:

http://www.lordoftherings.net/trilogy/index.html

The "marathon" would be too much for me.

15 posted on 11/16/2003 8:38:15 AM PST by Jalapeno
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To: ecurbh
ecurbh; is it the widescreen or letterbox? I'll be getting it Tuesday as well but wondering about format.

Also getting the DVD player, been thinking strongly about a combo, both Sony and Toshiba have them and are getting pretty reasonable.

Our VSH player is getting quite long in the tooth and starting to act up, but hasn't broke yet.
16 posted on 11/16/2003 8:54:26 AM PST by osagebowman (HHD-)
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To: Gordian Blade
Any word yet on the 'easter eggs' on the new DVD?

I have hear there's one with a funny Gollum bit right at the same spot where the MTV "Council of Elrond" spoof was at the end of Disc One.

After long and careful consideration I have decided that the only one of the four major departures from the text in The Two Towers that really, really bothers me is the deformation of Faramir's character. It was not so much the sidetrip to Osgiliath that bothered me as the abrupt negative shift that Faramir's character took right up until another abrupt shift at the end. Not only was his character badly deformed, but the character evolution seemed sudden and unconvincing. It would have been easier to digest if some inner struggle were at least visible in his behavior.

I could have done without the Aragorn "fake death" sequence but I well understood why it was added. It is tolerable because it does not deform his (or anyone else's) character and because it helps build dramatic tension, drive forward the major storyline as well as that of the development of Aragorn's character and that of his relationship with Arwen.

17 posted on 11/16/2003 9:29:02 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: The Iguana
It was about 1 AM when I finished my Middle Earth mini-marathon, and I was blown away by the whole experience, so I postponed the Easter Egg hunt.

Yes, the Faramir character development seems too abrupt. Somehow it comes off better in the extended version. Maybe the shock has worn off.

18 posted on 11/16/2003 11:35:14 AM PST by Gordian Blade
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To: Gordian Blade; All
I got TTT EE on Saturday and I watched it all the way through and went on to watch all of the documentaries. Here's a few points:

*Movie much better overall thanks to the new additions.
*Faramir's character (who I didn't have a big deal with anyway) is developed even further, and the flashback scene really helps a lot.
*Denethor (John Noble) is amazing, and should be great in ROTK.
*Eowyn's extra scenes are very good indeed.
*There is a LOT more comic moments, and thankfully, they ALL work and work very well. I was laughing out loud during several scenes, you will love them.
*Documentaries do a very good job at explaining why changes were made and why changes were later reserved.
*Lots of new insight into how difficult this was to make. The Gollum documentary springs to mind...
*You earn an even greater respect for the film makers and all those involved in the project. *Lots of hilarious stories from the cast and crew.

Right, now I'm off to check out the commentaries. First up, the cast commentary.

19 posted on 11/16/2003 1:07:26 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: ecurbh
Thanks for the ping! Can't wait to get my copy.
20 posted on 11/16/2003 4:16:12 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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