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Slavery Question: Please Help.
Electron1(Myself)

Posted on 11/06/2003 4:38:04 PM PST by electron1

Hello Everyone,

I am having a discussion with an extremely liberal friend of mine, and he made the claim that only Christian white societies have ever been involved in slavery. I know this isn't true, but for the life of me, can't come up with any counter examples.

Can anybody here assist me in finding counter examples, and resources to back them up?

thanks.


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To: electron1
Alas, if your friend is truly liberal, then NO amount of data and fact will convince him. Liberals "feel" things. Better you should agree and point out that the history he cites is why the dems will not allow President Bush to appoint any Roman Catholics to the federal bench. It is the dems response to this terrible Christian slavery thing.

Believe it or not, public television is showing a geneology program and a couple of weeks back, they talked about a black freed man in New Orleans who owned black slaves until he solf them to be able to afford to move back to Virginia(?). I couldn't believe that a neocommunist America-hating media outlet would ever even admit to such a thing.

Liberals are too stupid and crooked to be influenced by facts. They want to be loved, be sensitive, and feel superior. That's all.

81 posted on 11/06/2003 5:08:37 PM PST by Tacis
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To: electron1
I think Japan recently acknowledged keeping 20,000 Korean girls and women as sex slaves during WWII for their Army. Ghengis Khan had a huge army, many of whom were slaves, usually of the cities he had sacked. Nebuchadnezzer kept slaves. Happened all over history. Oh, also the Aztecs.
82 posted on 11/06/2003 5:09:56 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: 2banana; All
Dictionary by Merriam-Webster:

"slave"(noun): Middle English "sclave", from Old French or Medieval Latin; Old French "esclave", from Medieval Latin "sclavus", from Sclavus Slavic; from the frequent enslavement of Slavs in central europe.
83 posted on 11/06/2003 5:10:12 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("We few...we proud few...we band of brothers.")
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To: 2banana; All
Dictionary by Merriam-Webster:

"slave"(noun): Middle English "sclave", from Old French or Medieval Latin; Old French "esclave", from Medieval Latin "sclavus", from Sclavus Slavic; from the frequent enslavement of Slavs in central europe.
84 posted on 11/06/2003 5:11:12 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("We few...we proud few...we band of brothers.")
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To: electron1
Slavery has been a part of human society as far back as we can trace recorded history. It probably goes back even farther into pre-history and, in fact, almost certainly developed as soon as humans began dividing into tribes, and tribes began warring against each other.

In historical times, all of the known ancient cultures around the world practiced slavery in one form or another. Whenever one group fought against another, whole populations of the defeated side were commonly taken into slavery. It was as widespread in ancient Rome, for example, as it was among early Native American cultures.

Nor did the practice of slavery end in the 19th Century. It's still practiced in parts of the Islamic world today, particularly in Sudan.

85 posted on 11/06/2003 5:11:19 PM PST by Wolfstar (An angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: electron1
He can take a look at the Egyptians and follow the history of Islam that still enslaves in certain regions. Hell, the Sudan and several African nations still engage in human trade.
86 posted on 11/06/2003 5:11:21 PM PST by cwb (.)
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To: Nitro
conscripted laborers Sounds slavish to me. A bit PC, though.
87 posted on 11/06/2003 5:12:11 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Using Occam's Razor to shave the hairy beast of liberalism...)
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To: goodnesswins
Yes... yes... we must understand the delicate sensibilities of the Limo-Liberal.

I "care" soo much, only I can be right.

88 posted on 11/06/2003 5:12:44 PM PST by Nitro
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To: electron1
Has your friend ever heard of Egypt enslaving the Jews?

He doesn't even have to knwo how to read (as in the Bible).

Maybe he's heard of a little movie called The Ten Commandments.
89 posted on 11/06/2003 5:14:26 PM PST by GeorgiaYankee (Liberals sure are compassionate with MY MONEY!)
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To: kcamtx
The Spaniards enslaved millions of Africans. That's how my ancestors arrived in Jamaica.
90 posted on 11/06/2003 5:14:29 PM PST by South40
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To: bulldogs
Send him to the Sudan

Wouldn't that be a revelation?

91 posted on 11/06/2003 5:15:55 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: OK
American slaves were purchased from Islamic slave traders in Africa.

Seldom. Almost all American slaves came from the Gulf of Guinea area of West Africa. The coastal Africans then (as today) were seldom Moslem. More often they were animists. They used the guns and goods they got from the traders to finance purchase of slaves and raids on tribes further inland. At this point in history, Moslems were still mostly quite a ways further north.

92 posted on 11/06/2003 5:16:22 PM PST by Restorer
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To: electron1
Try this
93 posted on 11/06/2003 5:16:32 PM PST by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: electron1
Louisianna "free black slave owners".
94 posted on 11/06/2003 5:16:53 PM PST by dalebert
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To: electron1
Hell, in addition to all the other societies mentioned here, there were even slaves in Atlantis -- according to Plato. Slavery goes back to the dawn of mankind.
95 posted on 11/06/2003 5:17:04 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: TheyConvictedOglethorpe
The barbarian tribe, the Alans, did not hold slaves, which the Romans found to be remarkable.
96 posted on 11/06/2003 5:17:31 PM PST by bagman
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To: Nitro
"Link that says no slaves were used in the construction of the Great Wall. Cite your source."

Okie dokie.

Here and here and here and here.

Just let me know if you need more.

Regards...

97 posted on 11/06/2003 5:18:07 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: electron1
Sudan and Mauritania were not white Christian countries the last time I checked. It's been awhile so I could be mistaken
98 posted on 11/06/2003 5:18:26 PM PST by Damagro
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To: South40
"The Spaniards ......."

You flunk the read and understand part of the test. You may take it again next semester.

99 posted on 11/06/2003 5:18:42 PM PST by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: electron1
Your friend needs deprogramming.
100 posted on 11/06/2003 5:19:35 PM PST by wardaddy (...and Yes, I'll be your huckleberry.)
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