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To: bonesmccoy
Low yield nuclear fission devices do not seem to be useful in Washington DC. The reason is that the buildings are made of marble/stone and spaced by miles. Even if you detonated a low-yield device at Lincoln Memorial, the impact of a 1-2 kt weapon would be minimal at the Pentagon or Capitol Hill. So, I doubt that an enemy would use such devices there. The use of such a horrible weapon would need to be likely to deal a lethal first-strike attack.

Keep in mind that these low-lifes have at least a rudimentary understanding of American culture and lifestyle. At this time of the year, outside of sporting events like I posted above, they KNOW that the average American is at the mall.

I'd strongly suggest looking at the larger malls and shopping areas in each of those areas (Tyson's Corner or Potomac Mills in Washington, Paramus Park in North Jersey, Fifth Avenue/Park Avenue in Manhattan, Woodfield Mall or Michigan Avenue in Chicago). If they are looking for maximum collateral damage, those areas would be serious targets in each of those metro areas. There are other potential targets for sure, but don't forget - they are not only interested in damaging out command/control structure, but to cause maximum panic and fear among the populace as well.

One other area that would be attractive would be the airports themselves. JFK, Dulles, O'Hare, LAX (not to mention Hartsfield & DFW) will all be full of passengers, both foreign and domestic, originating, terminating and transitioning their trips in these gateway cities. A device placed within one of the terminals at any of these airports will accomplish their task just as readily and with significant loss of life as well.

2,776 posted on 12/22/2003 7:49:11 AM PST by mhking (It's in your home state...it's outside your front door...and it's going to eat YOU up!)
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2,778 posted on 12/22/2003 8:32:44 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: mhking
Woodfield Mall or Michigan Avenue in Chicago). If they are looking for maximum collateral damage, those areas would be serious targets in each of those metro areas

I will address what I know and go for Woodfield and Michigan AV.I avoid malls like plague since my daughter was nearly kidnapped at Woodfield.

Woodfield use to be sparsely guarded with ineffectual rent-a-cops. It is enormous with many places to plant a device. It has a wide open center that would collapse the entire mall and it is huge. This made me think of The Galleria in LA and the mall in Minnesota and don't you have the biggest one in Atlanta? Also Woodfield as hundreds of businesses surrounding it for miles. Not far from O'Hare and right by highways. Many places to hide with a remote detonator.

We all know how I feel about the security surrounding O'Hare and the SAM's that could be used.

Michigan Av. - rich folks, elite and hi-brow. The magnificent mile is wide open though not a tight corridor. But stores run exactly next to one another. Many historical landmarks and alot of glass.

Our tight corridor like Manhattan is wide, in between State Street and the River to the west. Which Sears Tower is smack in the middle of and the Chicago Board Exchange. Union Station is not far to the west. In regards to Sears, a personal story. My Mom was working across the street as it was being built and worker's were dying. She loathed with a passion , tall buildings, dreaded skyscrapers (your point about this is well taken).One day ,she always had the radio on getting ready for work. She heard there was an explosion from a gas leak and her building was destroyed. The close proximity to all commerce is that area.

This is not far from Daley Plaza and the fire that took place across the street and the Illinois State building, which is all glass and built like our prison., west of this is where our tight corrider begins.

Many professionals now live downtown, where as in the 60's-70's it was unheard of. Many live in Sears Tower. Sears was supposedly a target on 911 and due to it now has cement blocks, as do all federal buildings downtown.

I hope this helps anyone living here but unaware of details.

2,886 posted on 12/22/2003 3:13:05 PM PST by JustPiper (Following the course of least resistance makes for crooked rivers and crooked men)
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To: mhking
Targetting a low-yield device at a shopping mall is stupid. Why use a low-yield nuclear device on such target?

You're asking me to believe that the enemy would prioritize a Michael's or Lowe's over hitting the choke point of Alaskan crude?

I doubt it.

Any military man would scoff at the idea of targetting a shop versus a strategic resource choke point.
3,301 posted on 12/23/2003 7:55:29 AM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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