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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: L`enn
Yes, you are abolutely correct imho, "safe" is one heck of a relative term. Nobody in this country is safe. Nobody.

In essense, we can swim together or individually or we sink together or individually.




9,241 posted on 01/11/2004 12:19:01 PM PST by Sean Osborne Lomax (http://www.HomelandSecurityUS.com)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

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Remember, if you hear a blast, run away from it, as the terrorists use the first blast to get people to come closer, then set of a larger blast.<<


I have a hard time imagining folks that run towards gun shots or bomb blasts. I certainly don't. Cops and firefighters may, but most of the rest of us run away. Bali was a good example. Folks ran away from the small pub blast, into the main blast.

-Mal
9,242 posted on 01/11/2004 12:25:17 PM PST by Malsua
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To: freeperfromnj
Speak of (c)rap groups, let's not forget The Coup http://www.hiphop-elements.com/article/read/4/5456/1/

Oh yeah, I remember that. Boy was I ticked off that these 'artists' got a pass from everyone regarding their little coincidence.

9,243 posted on 01/11/2004 12:33:52 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: WestCoastGal
Ah, lets get down to brass tacks...

Prepare, each of us as you see fit for yourselves, your families, loved ones, friends, relatives, neighborhood, etc. etc.

I advise getting one of these. It could be a belated Christmas present. Get a couple of them.

http://www.nukalert.com/NukAlert-handM.jpg

http://www.nukalert.com/NukAlert-rearM.jpg

Visit this website for other survival necessities and become familiar with it, there is a tremendous amount of information here.

http://www.ki4u.com

Definitely pick up some KI (potassium Iodide) tablets.




"OK, what can we do to help?"




Keep your eyes and ears open. No matter where you live, report anything strange. Anything. If you live in an area of high middle eastern ethnic make-up then give us a heads-up if they begin to be seen less frequently as they have been advised to leave the specific cities mentioned in this thread.

I am hearing persistent talk of this happening in Phoenix, AZ. Patterson, NJ and Dearborn, MI are others. Keep your eyes open. Little things do matter. Be observant.

Secondly you can help everybody be becoming self-reliant, do not expect the US government to protect you 100%. That will never happen. They will do their utmost, but they simply cannot do everything required. This is still an open society and just like 9/11 the islamofascists will use our openness against us.

Last and most certainly not least visit:

http://www.thelibertyman.com

Here's some text to read from former-Green Beret John Moore.
URGENT! URGENT! URGENT!: Critical Information


Family Safety in Perilous Times,
Surviving Terrorist Attacks

by John Moore

The events of September 11, 2001 were a wake-up call for all Americans. For us older folks, we were instantly reminded of other events and tragedies. The younger ones among us had a quick lesson in what's really important: our families, our close friends, our
homes. On the morning of 11 September 2001 business as usual ended. For that day and the following three days much of the country was glued to their TV's and radios. Those out of town on business trips were having real adventures securing ground transportation to return home. The events of that day, that week, literally changed our society.

Families grew closer together. Churches had an upward spike in their attendance. Not only did professional sports cease for a period; the athletes themselves made public comments about honoring the real heroes of our society, our firefighters, police and paramedics.
In the year since our national tragedy in September '01 a lot has transpired. Several facts strike me as worth pointing out and discussing:

1.) Our leaders in Washington D.C., without exception, have issued warnings to the American public that our enemies have both the desire and the means to attack us inside the USA with weapons of mass destruction.
2.) There is no governmental agency, at any level, local, state or federal, that can guarantee any individual American or families safety.
3.) It is up to individual families to take responsibility to care for themselves.

Point #1: As this is being written (the first week of December 2002), the federal government is doing trial runs on volunteers who are receiving the Smallpox vaccination. This is a prelude to the vaccination of 1 million Americans: 500,000 in the U.S. Military and 500,000 civilians who are health care professionals and considered to be "first responders" to any outbreak of Smallpox. The media is attempting to make "news" of the reactions the volunteers are having including high-fevers, stiff joints and missed days at work or school, all of which are both predictable and expected.

The smiling faces reading the news always end these segments by saying that a percentage of people receiving vaccinations will die. In case you've been on vacation in the wilderness the past six or eight months, we are about to go the war with the country of Iraq. To believe that this war isn't going to happen is wishful thinking.

You can't follow the news without realizing that every level of government is preparing to deal with mass casualties inside the U.S.A.

Point #2: Despite the best efforts of very well-intentioned and skilled officials in our various governmental agencies, it will be years before the population of the U.S.A. has a level of civil defense comparable to, say Switzerland.

Point #3: It should be abundantly clear to any mature adult, that we have a clear and present danger to every family in the USA and a personal responsibility to meet these challenges. Now, if I have made a clear and convincing argument, you, dear reader, are
ready for my message. Commence your familys preparations posthaste. Not next month, not next week, do it today. As this is being written, we have at least the luxury of time. This may actually be the case, or it may be an illusion.

So, where do we go from here? First of all, we have threat analysis. What are the most likely threats to your family in your locale? I hope you are past thinking about crashing airplanes and Anthrax in the mail. Our enemies fully intend to end the dominance
of the USA as a world power militarily, politically and economically. They intend to do this by any means necessary, up to and including, the use of nuclear weapons. One of the obvious targets is our infrastructure, in particular, the following industries: utilities, telecommunications, and transportation. Of these, the one that is most attractive would most likely be the national power grid. Electricity is the single most important element to life in the 21st century. It's really pretty simple: knock out America's electricity, knock out America.

Emergency preparations for any disaster have many elements in common. The first and most basic being that you must adopt an understanding that within minutes you could be totally on your own. No electricity, no public water or sewer, no telephone, no natural gas, no grocery store or gas station, no police, fire or ambulance service. If any of the above utilities or services survive for your use, so much the better. However, when it comes to your planning, you must prepare as if none will survive.

I do this for a living, helping people prepare. Giving presentations to groups of people. Consulting with corporations about their disaster plans. The basics are water, two gallons per person per day. Food enough to last for the duration you feel is prudent. Shelter - staying warm and dry on your own. Medical supplies, including prescription medications for those that must have them and any antibiotics you must have in case of a biological attack. Transportation including motor vehicles that are EMP-proof and stabilized fuel. Communications, and I'm not talking about cell-phones here. All it takes to knock out cell phone service is too many calls at the same time.

You must be prepared to be your own firefighter, para-medic and policeman. Failure to make these preparations including training and equipping yourself could have life-threatening consequences. While preparing to fight your own fires and save a life with a comprehensive aid-kit is a no-brainer for nearly everyone. The thought of being your own policeman is, for many men, something they simply cannot comprehend. Addressing this mindset for adult males who have been so feminized to the point that they do not understand their traditional role as defenders of their women and children is beyond the scope of this monograph. Gentlemen, there are men who will use force of arms to harm your children, steal your property and take your women. Your duty is to protect them by the use of deadly force, if necessary.

Thus far, I have covered a lot of territory. Let me give you some resources to help you on your way. First, the American Red Cross. These folks can help you get the training to save lives. No longer is first aid training just a day of learning basics (although they still offer this). Now you will get first responder training along with advanced CPR. While you won't be a para-medic after one of these courses, you will be able to help save a life.

We also have the various governmental agencies. The blue pages of your local telephone book should have a listing for the county level and a listing for FEMA (1-800-480-2520 option "A") While the various official publications are helpful they do have glaring deficiencies, mainly in the area of security, personal safety and long term scenarios. For example:

Even in the no-longer-available FEMA nuclear war publications virtually no guidance or help is offered for the people coming out of their shelters. FEMA publications pretty much leave you on your own for any long term scenario.

Want more help? Keep visiting my website: WWW.THELIBERTYMAN.COM
Best of luck as you commence your efforts to protect your loved ones. May God bless each and every one of you!

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Alright, now, what are you waiting for?

Eyes wide open and Get Busy!







9,244 posted on 01/11/2004 12:41:01 PM PST by Sean Osborne Lomax (http://www.HomelandSecurityUS.com)
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To: Malsua
Malsua ~ allow me to pipe in here. Most folks do run toward an event (whether it be a blast, shooting, car accident, etc.). They think that the initial event is all there is and run to see what happened or to help if they can.

That reaction is what some terrorists count on. They want to terrorize those that would help and maximize the maiming and killing of service personnel.
9,245 posted on 01/11/2004 12:42:03 PM PST by debg
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To: Sean Osborne Lomax
re: 9233

Sean,

The 10-10 was stuck in my mind, as radio talk.

I can't all find my Indian writing books, But when it was a big interest to me, they would make marks ___ in a row or stack to mark the days of travel or maybe between killing of deers, etc.

A row of suns might also mark a day, so would think that moons might also.

I did find "The Book of Signs", by: Rudolf Koch, Dover Publications 1955, reprint of 1930 book.

He shows the 4 with a long cross bar, and another ! bar across it and says it is the sign for Borax.

Page 35 - The Monogram

The monogram is a sign composed of written characters interlaced with one another. The Latin uncials, from which our present day writing is derived, are signs of the utmost dignity and simplicity.

(shows) A N T S

(this is the part that catches my interest)
We are, generally speaking, so accustomed to connect the idea of sounds with the sight of these forms, that it is only with difficulty that we can dissociate the letters from this, and think of them as symbols.

(shows) 4 5 7

The same is true of Arabic numerals, which, indeed, owe their origin to quite another part of the world, but with whose character as signs we are, however, not less familiar.
end of quote.

I am sure that you already know the above, but I had forgotten it.

The above book is little more than a booklet, wonder how the 4 figures in other chemical signs?

Ruth
9,246 posted on 01/11/2004 12:49:38 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Ruth, whose foil hat includes flowers and feathers, and a kitty chasing them.....)
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To: Sean Osborne Lomax
From an organization that I am affiliated with: "View yourself as capable not powerless in these unsafe times – capable of being your best defense when it comes to safety and security for you and your family… by being vigilant, being prepared, taking protective measures, and pre-planning your own emergency response plans, you can be empowered to protect your family and ultimately make our nation a safer place."

There are some good resources available at: http://www.jump2net.com/nsdi/resources.htm
9,247 posted on 01/11/2004 1:07:23 PM PST by debg
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To: nw_arizona_granny
10 - 10 sticks in my mind because it's my birth month and day. My father used to call me "Oct ten"...the gas that kept him going!
9,248 posted on 01/11/2004 1:14:32 PM PST by debg
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To: LayoutGuru2; Calpernia; StillProud2BeFree; JustPiper; piasa; backhoe; Shermy; Dog; Sabertooth; ...
LINKS OF INTEREST:

HAGANAH INTERNET: "Unmentionable Jihad site of the day" (January 11, 2004)
http://internet-haganah.us/harchives/001395.html

HAGANAH INTERNET: "Haganah database of web sites to be closed to the general public" (January 11, 2004)
http://internet-haganah.us/harchives/001394.html

HAGANAH INTERNET: "haganah255@yahoo.com is not me" (January 11, 2004)

ARTICLE BRIEF: "Let's get this straight right now. The person using the haganah255@yahoo.com is not me. A little digging indicates that haganah255@yahoo.com comes to us via Flint, Michigan."
http://internet-haganah.us/harchives/001393.html
9,249 posted on 01/11/2004 1:16:31 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Oorang
What is my take? I think it's a combination of looney tunes and somewhat conceivable. We know that only two published terrorist "cells" have been arrested in this country since 9/11, and one of them was in Portland... We're also told that suitcase nukes couldn't exist because they require constant maintenance so we shouldn't worry about them... but they also deployed nuke detection equipment to about 30 cities during the Christmas / New Year timeframe... So who knows?

Bottom line for me on this particular tidbit is it's something to keep in the back of the mind, and keep putting the pieces together.

Here's MapQuest's location for New Era:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&countryid=250&addtohistory=&address=&city=new+era&state=or&zipcode=&submit=Get+Map
9,250 posted on 01/11/2004 1:27:09 PM PST by BagCamAddict (Tell the Troops: DO NOT TRUST ANY IRAQI WHO IS 40 POUNDS OVERWEIGHT !!)
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To: Calpernia; All
ADDING ON TO POST NO. 9220

AZcentral.com - THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC -NewsBrief: "Shell station reports theft of 7,300 gallons of gasoline"

"Related
12 News video: 7,300 gallons of gas stolen"

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "PHOENIX - The theft of 7,300 gallons of gasoline was reported Saturday by the owner of a Shell station in the 5800 block of North 27th Avenue."

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0111valleybriefs11.html
===

FR Discussion:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1055816/posts
9,251 posted on 01/11/2004 1:32:39 PM PST by Cindy
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To: nw_arizona_granny
I found these numbers quite interesting




September 11 (9-11 equals 11)

254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11

111 days left to the end of the year

Twin Towers looks like the number 11

Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11

Flight 175 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11

New York City - 11 Letters

The Pentagon - 11 Letters

Pennsylvania - 11 Letters

Afghanistan - 11 Letters

State of New York 11th state added to the Union
9,252 posted on 01/11/2004 1:39:07 PM PST by tapatio (I would rather see the United States respected than loved by other nations)
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To: Sean Osborne Lomax
5 and 5 are also the amount of letters in the work White House
9,253 posted on 01/11/2004 1:45:59 PM PST by tapatio (I would rather see the United States respected than loved by other nations)
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To: JustPiper
Didn't the first case of Sars this winter show up in Taiwan?...and it was a military research facility I think.
9,254 posted on 01/11/2004 1:46:18 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: tapatio
work=word
9,255 posted on 01/11/2004 1:48:03 PM PST by tapatio (I would rather see the United States respected than loved by other nations)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
When using the 10 code, 10-10 should mean "at home." For example, for those of you who listen to scanners, may hear an office state, "I'm Code 7 at my 10-10." Translation: I'm taking my meal break at home.

FYI.
9,256 posted on 01/11/2004 1:49:51 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
CORRECTION office = OFFICER
9,257 posted on 01/11/2004 1:50:18 PM PST by Cindy
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To: All
Gang - from all of the info posted, have we been able to determine which cities besides NYC, DC, LA & Las Vegas are most "at risk"?

It would be helpful to all of us to do a "threat assessment" based on all available Intel and "buzz".

Please respond with your thoughts..

TIA!
9,258 posted on 01/11/2004 1:51:59 PM PST by jstolzen (We gotta start thinking LIKE the bad guys!!)
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To: Cindy


It's Easy !
9,259 posted on 01/11/2004 2:01:57 PM PST by cmsgop (Rate President Bush "He's doing a fine job on the war on terrorism." Howard Dean Via NY Times)
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To: All
Recalling other paintball incidents in the news, I found this discussion interesting...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1055863/posts

"Vandals shoot paintballs at police cars(AT THE STATION), bystander"
Livingston County Daily Press and Argus ^ | 1-11-04 | Shaun Bryon


Posted on 01/11/2004 11:09:39 AM PST by Dan from Michigan


"Vandals shoot paintballs at police cars, bystander"
By Shaun Byron
Daily Press & Argus

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The Michigan State Police post in Brighton and a 40-year-old man from Hartland Township were the victims of vandals sometime between 11 a.m. and 1 p.m. Thursday.

Some state police vehicles were shot with a paintball gun during the day, said Therese Fogarty-Cremonte, a sergeant with the Brighton post of the Michigan State Police.

Shortly after 1 p.m., a man was shot in the chest with a paintball from a vehicle. Police say it was the same shooter.

A vehicle pulled behind the post, 4803 Old U.S. 23, and fired a number of shots at a couple of squad cars and a SWAT vehicle.

"It wasn't a very prudent thing to do," Fogarty-Cremonte said of the paint splattered on the vehicles.

The vehicle then left and headed north on Old U.S. 23. It pulled into the parking lot of Prime Time Rental & Sales LLC in Brighton, and someone in the vehicle shot a man in the chest."
9,260 posted on 01/11/2004 2:08:46 PM PST by Cindy
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