Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

[debg]

Diverted plane has landed at Dulles. Fox news said "some sort of threat."

[Letitring]

Has a nice 'ring' to it, don't it? LOL.

I've got to go for a bit. Going to look at some property on a small lake. Good, tight, tiny community build around a central lake. Might be good place to be, until...

[hummingbird]

At the risk of bringing up Suitcase Nukes again..

jstolzen, I don't discount the Suitcase Nukes at all...when the Soviet Union broke up, stuff disappeared. People took advantage. Much is unaccounted for, including suitcase nukes. I'm just wondering if it was individual Russians who got their hands on them and sold them to bin Laden for their own profit. And, I don't discount that suitcase weapons may have already been put in place in the US prior to 09/11.

Thanks for your links...I do take this seriously. I'm just not sure about the Russian scenario...yet, anyway. We're brainstorming here, so let's continue to banter all scenarios around. Maybe we can zero in on the most likely and plan accordingly.

[tubavil]

Filthy arab, muslim, saudi terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://spokesmanreview.com/news-story.asp?date=011004&ID=s1469509 (requires registration)

Spokesman-Review Student faces terror charges Saudi accused of providing support while at UI

Bill Morlin Staff writer

Al-Hussayen

A University of Idaho graduate student from Saudi Arabia, awaiting trial on visa fraud charges, was indicted Friday on charges of providing material support to terrorists.

The expanded case against Sami Omar Al-Hussayen is among only a handful of Justice Department prosecutions involving individuals in the United States suspected of aiding international terrorists.

Al-Hussayen is accused of managing terrorist Web sites, funneling money for suspected terrorist-front organizations and supporting two Saudi sheiks linked to Osama bin Laden.

His attorney, David Nevin, denied the charges on Friday.

"Sami doesn't favor terrorism, he's not a terrorist and he's not a supporter of terrorists," Nevin said.

The 34-year-old student is pursuing a computer science doctorate at the university in Moscow, Idaho.

He is accused of moderating a worldwide e-mail group for 2,400 Muslim activists pledged to a violent holy war against the West.

The indictment alleges the group's Internet postings included terrorist training camp instructions and an "urgent appeal" to Muslims in the U.S. military, asking them to identify potential U.S. targets in the Middle East.

The list of requested targets included U.S. military bases, weapons and petroleum facilities and routes followed by oil tankers. One posting urged an attack on a particular high-ranking U.S. military officer, not identified in the indictment.

Other postings by Al-Hussayen "glorified" and urged financial support for families of Islamic suicide bombers who die for the holy war, or jihad, the indictment says.

It also accuses Al-Hussayen of conspiring to conceal and disguise the nature of his work supporting terrorist activities.

The new charge is in addition to seven counts of visa fraud and four counts accusing Al-Hussayen of lying in his applications to study in the United States.

His attorney, Nevin, questioned the timing of the indictment, just 11 days before his client is scheduled to stand trial on visa fraud and false statement charges.

That trial likely will be postponed, possibly as early as Monday when Al-Hussayen appears in Boise before a U.S. magistrate judge on the new, more serious charges.

Al-Hussayen has been in jail since his arrest last February on the university's Moscow campus. His wife and children are scheduled to voluntarily return to Saudi Arabia.

Nevin also questioned the constitutionality of the new charges returned by a 23-member grand jury.

"The allegations ... even if you accept them all as being true, they're talking about speech," Nevin said. "I don't think this charge is constitutional."

While the defense attorney said the new case involves free-speech issues, federal investigators say it's far more than that.

The case against Al-Hussayen was developed over the past three years by the Inland Northwest Joint Terrorism Task Force, based in Spokane.

"It's the responsibility of this task force to detect, deter, disrupt and dismantle terrorist organizations," said spokesman Norm Brown. "We feel we're on the right path in this case."

Al-Hussayen came to the United States in 1994 to attend Ball State University in Muncie, Ind., where he earned a master of science degree in computer science. He attended Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas, before enrolling at the University of Idaho in 1999 to seek a doctoral degree in computer security.

His alleged involvement with suspected terrorist Web sites began about that same time, the indictment says.

"Al-Hussayen knew and intended that his computer services and expertise would be used to recruit and raise funds for violent holy war in Israel, Chechnya and elsewhere, involving the destruction of property, kidnapping, maiming and murder," said Thomas Moss, U.S. attorney for Idaho.

Al-Hussayen was an employee of the [terrorist]Islamic Assembly of North America, a charitable, nonprofit organization formed in the United States, the indictment alleges.[as well as past president of the terrrorist muslim Students Association, MSA]

The Saudi's native country paid for his college tuition and provided him and his family with living expenses[AND LAWYER], it says.

Since 1994, Al-Hussayen has maintained at least six bank accounts in four states. In the past six years, those accounts received and dispersed more than $300,000 in excess of the study-related funds Al-Hussayen received from Saudi Arabia, the indictment says.

The funds in Al-Hussayen's accounts were used to pay for travel in the United States and overseas by other individuals associated with the Islamic Assembly, the indictment says.

The Islamic charity remains under investigation, but has not been designated by the United States as a "specially designated global terrorist" organization.

Al-Hussayen also was a representative of Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, a charity based in his native Saudi Arabia, the indictment says.

Six months after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the United States designated branches of Al-Haramain in Bosnia and Somalia as global terrorist organizations.

Al-Hussayen signed contracts on behalf of Al-Haramain and provided assistance in that organization's Internet-related business and activities, the indictment says.

On the Web sites, two radical Saudi sheiks, Salman Al-Awdah and Safar al-Hawali, frequently published fatwahs, or religious degrees, urging and justifying suicide bombings and other forms of violent jihad.

Experts say the sheiks have direct contact with Osama bin Laden, and share his violent, anti-Western views.

[Letitring]

I plan to look into that, totally, when I return. Thanks alot.

In your situation, wonder how the Mrs. would feel about a camphouse outside town, sort of. I'm thinking about a small lakehouse, in case we can't immediately get to a 'certain' place in the Countryside. Besides which, a little lakehouse might be a fun thing, in the Summer.

[maggief]

EOM message posted twice ... again at:

EOM
No Subject
Sat Jan 10 2004 12:27:55 pm
202.57.5.37

First message at:

EOM
Astowda Okomallah
Sat Jan 10 2004 12:15:28 pm
202.57.5.37

[Try2Discern]

You are right about the meeting part, but what is odd is that, I think, the writer and subject are graduates of the University of Indonesia,where their field of study was computer science and technology. The writer (Siska) is announcing a meeting tomorrow for anyone interested in some sort of training that Arif Setiawan will be giving (demonstrating?)
Doesn't really seem to belong here. You would think they would put it under a more meaningful heading. There is however a company called Ixora with a branch in Singapore. Maybe that's how this message ended up here.

I couldn't find any connections to muslim extremists.

After researching Ixora for quite some time, I am convinced that the shrub, ixora, is not the subject matter. The plant has extremely limited medicinal uses.

As far as the site owner, I have no way of knowing who this person is, or where the money she collects in the name of charity goes. Don't know how to find out those things.

[debg]

Passenger of the diverted plane passed a note to the attendant that he had a bomb. per Fox news

[Rushmore Rocks]

American Eagle flight......hmmmmmmm....."Belly of an Eagle"?

[debg]

hehe. osama wouldn't have passed a note. he would have given them an audio tape.

[jstolzen]

Passenger of the diverted plane passed a note to the attendant that he had a bomb. per Fox news

What kind of idjit would do this unless he/she really DID have a bomb?

That's just a quick way to get yourself arrested and in jail for a LONG time.

Given that, one has to consider if this is a "real" threat since the idjit is right there and making the claim. Hmmmmm...

[WestCoastGal]

OK, why would a real bomber announce his intentions? This flight apparently only had 24 passengers on board, was this a small plane? American Eagle usually has only the smaller commuter planes.

The only things I can think of is:

1. He's a nut or

2. It was a diversion.

[debg]

I'm thinking a nut. Short commuter hop supposed to land at Reagan.

[Cindy]

re post no. 8942...

Absolutely -- Prayer is Powerful!

[Cindy]

Adding on to post no. 8948...
LINKS OF INTEREST:

INTERNET HAGANAH (NY POST.com): "'DIRTY BOMBER' HUNT New York Post Exclusive" (January 10, 2004) (Read More...)

GOOGLE Search Term: "ABU KHABAB" (Read More...)

GOOGLE Search Term: "MIDHAT MURSI" (Read More...)

[Donna Lee Nardo]

"We're brainstorming here, so let's continue to banter all scenarios around. "

Sounds like good advice to me, hummingbird.

[debg]

Per FBI spokesperson, the person demanded to be taken to Australia.

[Donna Lee Nardo]

As long as it is not a lake house haunted by ...... J-A-S-O-N! Better to stay put and face the terrorists then!

[Cindy]

re post no. 8981...

I write my elected officials A LOT!
I'm sure they appreciate my words
of wisdom and take my ideas and
concerns into consideration every-
time they vote on a bill and/or
create a bill and/or give a speech.

Right? (wry grin)

[JustPiper]

Terror threat level still "high" at eight US airports
Sat Jan 10, 6:49 AM ET Add Top Stories - AFP to My Yahoo!

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The United States is keeping eight airports and other unspecified facilities on high alert for terrorist attack, after lowering the general threat level to "elevated" from "high".

Announcing the lowering of the threat level Friday, after 19 days of intense nationwide security precautions, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said that the United States would however "maintain particular vigilance around some critical resources and locales," The Washington Post reported Saturday.


Without giving details he said most of the increased security would involve "the private sector" and this included airlines.


Sources told the paper those facilities included eight airports, including those in Washington, New York, Los Angeles and Las Vegas.


The move signals a major departure in US strategy on internal security, in which officials "communicate quietly with local officials who need to ramp up security in specific areas" rather than issue costly blanket alerts encompassing the entire country, the Post noted.


The change reflects narrower, more "sophisticated" risk assessments concerning specific facilities, locations and types of infrastructure, homeland security sources said.


During the past nearly three weeks, numerous flights to the United States cancelled and many others delayed and even escorted to US airports by fighter jets.


The United States introduced a five-level, colour-coded alert system after the September 11, 2001 attacks. "Elevated", or yellow, is the third highest level.