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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: liz44040
There were 4 Americans
7,021 posted on 01/06/2004 9:10:40 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: WestCoastGal
I turn on Fox etc to watch for news and this threat is the news.

I think the fact that we can't find substantive news related to the terror threats is the reason this thread is over 7,000 posts.

7,022 posted on 01/06/2004 9:11:13 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
>>I found that rather unsettling after he told all of us to go about our business over the Christmas holidays.<<

That statement was made in response to a question from the President, and was made before Christmas-before the new security measures went into effect.

7,023 posted on 01/06/2004 9:13:44 AM PST by sissyjane
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To: sissyjane
Thanks for the clarification.
7,024 posted on 01/06/2004 9:15:32 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
You're very welcome.
7,025 posted on 01/06/2004 9:16:56 AM PST by sissyjane
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To: hmmmmm
Lookie, this is odd, last week I vcould got to the Governor's site and get info on nuke plants, not now! But the one I do know that has an 847 area code is our Zion plant, been awarded #1 safety, is huge!
7,026 posted on 01/06/2004 9:16:59 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: All
There are checking cars going into BWI (Balt. Washington Inter.) No specific threats...
http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?sid=157889&nid=25
7,027 posted on 01/06/2004 9:20:59 AM PST by tmp02
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To: Eroteme
The search terms associated with Hamid, http://www.twexus.com/?f=inf&ino=432745-BL has a woman laying on the floor? And look at the search terms below. Emirates Airlines?"

I thought the picture looked like a dead man lying on the ground in a mask. One of the other search terms that caught my eye was skyjumper along with the airlines name.

7,028 posted on 01/06/2004 9:21:58 AM PST by Lady Heron
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In 1983, the State of Illinois and the Commonwealth of Kentucky entered into the Central Midwest Interstate Low-Level Radioactive Waste Compact (CMC). This was in response to a federal policy set out in the Low-Level Radioactive Waste Policy Act of 1980, which made each state responsible for assuring that disposal capacity is available for certain categories of low-level radioactive waste generated within its borders.

A three-member commission administers the CMC. Presently, the Illinois commissioners are Gary N. Wright, director of the Illinois Emergency Management Agency Division of Nuclear Safety, and Philip J. Rock . Dr Edward S. Ford is the chairman and commissioner representing Kentucky. Marcia Marr is the executive director for the commission.

This section includes notices of upcoming meetings, and the availability of reports.

Central Midwest Interstate LLRW Compact Commission

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What happens when a nuclear plant closes? Few options show promise for idle U.S. nuke plants

By Bon Susnjara
STAFF WRITER

(Originally published in The News Sun, Aug. 21, 1997)

Perhaps when ComEd's Zion nuclear power plant closes in the next century,the utility might hold a used-equipment sale on the site.It's not like area residents descended on an area south of Sacramento,Calif., for a bargain-hunting excursion when a nuclear plant closed therein 1989 and sold some equipment. Instead, a business in China bought twodiesel generators.

What makes the Rancho Seco situation different from ComEd's plan for Zionis that Sacramento residents voted to close the plant in 1989. While somesay Rancho Seco was plagued by management and operational problems,Sacramento Municipal Utility District spokesman Dace Udris said acombination of factors contributed to its demise.

"I don't think you can say there was one reason why people voted to shut it down," Udris said.

Rancho Seco, which opened in 1975, is about 30 miles southeast ofSacramento in what is known as cattle country. Unlike the Zion plant, fewmade their home near the plant, so its dormancy has not proved to be aneyesore.

The utility district has received approval for its shutdown plan from theNuclear Regulatory Commission. It currently is going through what is calledincremental decommission.

"You take it on a year-by-year basis," Udris said.

One futuristic-sounding plan for one of Rancho Seco's 420-foot coolingtowers surfaced within the past year, only to be rejected by the utilitydistrict. It would have been a test tower for an aero-electric method ofcleaning the air.

Targeted for use in Los Angeles, such towers would rinse pollutants fromthe air. As proposed by physicist Melvin Prueitt, nearly 100 of the towerswould be placed across Los Angeles with water pumped into them from thePacific Ocean.

In 1990, another proposal to re-use Rancho Seco went nowhere. That ideainvolved a company that was considered the country's foremost builder ofsolar electric plants.

Before the Sacramento-area plant shuttered, a lawsuit was filed in 1985that alleged residents were exposed to dangerous radiation levels through adeliberate discharge of contaminated water into a stream. A judgesubsequently dismissed the complaint, which sought $1 billion in damages.Udris said that was not the only suit filed by residents in connection withthe plant. She said a complaint was filed by a group that did not want thenuclear operation to close.

Other plants that have closed within the past eight years are in areas evenmore remote than Rancho Seco. Yankee Rowe in Massachusetts and Fort St.Vrain in Colorado both are away from metropolitan areas, unlike Zion.As part of a phased-in shutdown at the San Onofre nuclear plant inCalifornia to be completed by 2013, one reactor was taken off line in 1992.San Onofre is seaside between San Clemente to the north and Oceanside tothe south.

Oceanside Mayor Dick Lyon said San Onofre is far enough away so that thereare no real economic effects on his city from the plant.
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Twin Towers made their impact on Zion

Plant enabled humble city to offer top-line amenities

By Craig Peterson
STAFF WRITER

(Originally published in The News Sun, Aug. 19, 1997)

When John Alexander Dowie founded his church and theocracy in Zion nearly a century ago, his grand plan left out nuclear reactors on the lakefront. In the past 20 years, the hulking power station has had as much of an impact on the city's destiny as Dowie's master plan.

Tax revenues from the plant have improved the education provided to two generations of schoolchildren. The money also has transformed a park district from a loose confederacy of weed lots into a kingdom of neighborhood parks, community centers and recreational facilities. The revenue has had similar effects on all the other local taxing bodies as well.

ComEd property taxes -- nearly $20 million in 1996 -- have bankrolled development of neighborhood parks and recreational facilities at David Park, Hermon Park and the Leisure Center, which was built on a scope unrivaled for a park district the size of Zion's.

"The park district was acquiring (land) for that purpose, but the (nuclear plant tax) money made it come faster," said former Park Board Director Chuck Paxton, who is now the city's mayor. If the plant had never been built, "everything would have taken longer," he said.

ComEd's $19.8 million in taxes last year to Zion Township, whose boundary lines coincide with those of the city, funds 55.1 percent of the local tax base supporting six main taxing bodies: the city, township, two school districts, the park district and the library district.

Residents enjoy neighborhood parks, playground equipment, dozens of basketball and tennis courts, a softball complex, indoor ice-skating rinks, a couple of gymnasium facilities and a bike trail loop around the city. Bolstered by the revenue, the park district and high school jointly built an indoor swimming pool at the high school.

The increased funding improved the district's capability to maintain the large amount of acreage set aside as parkland in Dowie's master plan. The windfall put the district in a strong financial state, which allowed it to issue bonds to do the development immediately.

When Eugene Latz came to Zion as a junior high principal in 1968, the average class size was 38 pupils, many of whom were testing very poorly, he said. Within a few years after the plant was built, class size was down to 25 and test scores were improving by a full grade level in several consecutive years.

The revenue from the plant was the primary reason for the change, said Latz, who retired as the elementary school district's superintendent a few years ago.

The revenue paid for more teachers and allowed the district to implement specialized curriculums, such as high-intensity reading and math instruction for slow-learning students, which proved to be so successful that a high-intensity class outscored the regular classes during year-end testing.

Like the other taxing bodies, the nuclear plant's taxes accounted for 60 percent of the elementary school district's revenue, he said, which eased the burden of moderate- to low-income residents of the community. Unlike school districts in areas with comparable economies, Zion elementary and high schools, subsidized by the utility's property taxes, were able to levy much lower tax rates on residential property taxpayers.

"It would have been very, very difficult for the community to absorb the cost of the education programs had not the plant been there," he said. The elementary schools expanded program offerings, renovated Central Junior High and built Beulah Park School during the first year of the plant's operation.

The revenue windfall also allowed the school district to offer many more programs at higher educational quality than a standard property tax base could have supported, he said, including a student tracking program, a staff development program that increased staff size and promoted higher-quality programming, other curriculum, and recognition and awards for higher test scores.
7,029 posted on 01/06/2004 9:22:28 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
JP's Marker
7,030 posted on 01/06/2004 9:24:08 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Calpernia
Don't forget about the standard trojan horse either. Enemies or weaponry secreted in something seemingly innocent and awaiting a planned attack...
7,031 posted on 01/06/2004 9:29:17 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: thecabal; Selene
TheAngel shines upon Islam brightly the 7th...What is TheAngel...

Possibly refers to something like this?

Angels in Qur'an & Hadith

"For, "upon the day when they see the angels -- no good tidings that day for the sinners ... On the day when the heavens and the clouds are split asunder and the angels are sent down in a grand descent, the dominion that day will belong truly to the All-Merciful; it will be a harsh day for the unbelievers" (XXV, 25-26)"

So we infidels are in for a bad day when the Angel shines upon Islam, I'm guessing.

7,032 posted on 01/06/2004 9:29:47 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: JustPiper
I don't believe the 'Twin Tower' Zion plants are functioning anymore, but newspapers on the web report a significant amount of spent fuel there. It is also right on the Lake Michigan lakefront.
7,033 posted on 01/06/2004 9:31:00 AM PST by SCR1
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To: texasbluebell
From that same link I just posted, this is pretty interesting. What the moslems call one of their angels sounds like a certain small country in the ME...

6. Izra'il -- He is mentioned by the Quran as the "angel of death";

7,034 posted on 01/06/2004 9:32:08 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: tmp02
Glad to see this post, and happy about tightened security. My stepson is flying into BWI Saturday.
7,035 posted on 01/06/2004 9:34:43 AM PST by Try2Discern
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To: tmp02
I saw that about BWI and thought it odd that they are checking every vehicle going into that airport. As the article says code orange requires some vehicles to be checked. Obviously they continue to receive intelligence regarding different areas although DC seems to be in the spotlight right now.

With all the threats to NYC I find it odd that no flights have been canceled, delayed or scrutinized going there.

7,036 posted on 01/06/2004 9:36:03 AM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: WestCoastGal; freeperfromnj
Gheese!!!

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0600uk/content_objectid=13784699_method=full_siteid=50082_headline=-Terror-fears-delay-flight-again--name_page.html

Also yesterday, it was revealed that BBC journalist Sophie Hull and two cameramen had managed to walk through an unmanned barrier into a high-security area at Humberside airport.

The three media representatives spent half an hour wandering among the planes in the aircraft manoeuvring area at the airport before being stopped by security staff.

Ms Hull, who was questioned for nearly three hours by Special Branch officers before being released without charge, said it was "surprisingly simple" to get into the airport.

A spokesman for the airport said, "We have appropriate levels of security - appropriate to all of the sensitive areas of the airport."

7,037 posted on 01/06/2004 9:37:11 AM PST by OXENinFLA ("Freedom is God's gift to every man and woman who lives in this world." - Pres. Bush 1-5-03)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
By the same token, NYC is also the finest capitalist armpit in the world.
7,038 posted on 01/06/2004 9:43:00 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: OXENinFLA
Seems that security in some places is not what it should be.

Published December 29, 2003 AZAircraftArrest

PHOENIX - A 57-year-old Florida man was arrested after he allegedly took a utility knife on a plane.

A passenger on a Northwest Airlines flight departing from Phoenix reported seeing Peter Joseph Martin with a five-inch utility knife as the plane was leaving the gate on Sunday, said FBI spokesman Susan Herskovits.

When confronted by a flight attendant, Martin gave the knife to the attendant, and the plane returned to the gate, Herskovits said.

Martin was being held in Maricopa County Jail on suspicion of bringing a dangerous weapon on an aircraft.

Herskovits declined to comment on why Martin may have brought the utility knife aboard or to say whether federal authorities had interviewed him.

The Northwest flight, which was bound for St. Paul and Fort Lauderdale, Fla., was allowed to continue Sunday after Martin was detained.

7,039 posted on 01/06/2004 9:44:22 AM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: OXENinFLA
One more thing about this article is of concern.

"Almohandis, a married father of two who works as a biomedical engineer at King Faisal Specialist Hospital & Research Centre in Riyadh, told inspectors he was traveling alone on business when he arrived at Logan Airport on Saturday afternoon on Lufthansa Flight 422."

"Almohandis, a married father of two who works as a biomedical engineer at King Faisal Specialist Hospital & Research Centre in Riyadh.

Kind of makes you wonder, no?

7,040 posted on 01/06/2004 9:48:34 AM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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