Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

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Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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[txhurl]

I read this as: 'Now is Europe's turn.'

Which sucks. We're supposed to be a team here.

[Wolfhound777]

we have been seeing references to planned operations extending through the Christmas and New year holidays, with specific references to a time period from 21-28 November 2003. How valid are these threats? We can only speculate based on a careful analysis of the data found, but consider the weight of the evidence to be substantial enough to offer this advisory. We have identified various threats from the air and against seaports, nuclear facilities and harbors, with continued interest in financial and symbolic targets. Cities of interest continue to include New York, Washington, DC, and all coastal cities. A full report containing sources and reference citations is being compiled at this time.

Gee..that narrows it down. Sounds like a full scale invasion. Seriously, I don't Al Q could operate their way out of a paper bag right now.

[Calpernia]

>>>>I don't Al Q could operate their way out of a paper bag right now.

I don't think they ever could. They were only able to flex after their tail was wagged. Who wagged it?

Old Soviet? China? Couldn't just be France. A little Germany? Combination? Who?

[hispanarepublicana]

symbolic targets

God help them if they try to do anything to the Alamo. We almost lynched Ozzy Osbourne for urinating on it, and his name's still not allowed to be uttered around anyone in my family.

[Unknowing]

You know, only the Attorney General of the U.S. can change the color alert level.

So, in the final analysis, that's what it means.

But if the WA ferry customers complain about increased security, I pity the fools.

[Calpernia]

>>>>You know, only the Attorney General of the U.S. can change the color alert level.

Not 100% sure what you mean by that. NY has been at Orange since 9/11. You all in the other states have been at Yellow.

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[Unknowing]

I meant only the Department of Homeland Security alert level. See http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

My state does not even have a color alert level, at least not one which is publicized.

[Ethyl]

Too many beans in the enchilata?


In a true enchilada, there are no beans, they are served on the side.

[Wolfhound777]

I don't think they ever could. They were only able to flex after their tail was wagged. Who wagged it? Old Soviet? China? Couldn't just be France. A little Germany? Combination? Who?

Calpernia, excellent question and one I don't see asked very often. Answer lies in: Who had the most to gain? I dont know. I do personally think that Al Q was involved in the execution of 9/11 but I don't think they were the sole participants. From what I know of how they operate, it would be easy for someone to "handle" them without them knowing it was not a higher Al Q person in the chain. They are very good at compartmentalizing their operations and most do not even know the members of the other cells in the same city. This operation had a high level of sophistication that I just can't attribute to them soley.

[Calpernia]

I can't get to it. I'm getting document not found.

[Calpernia]

Was the stock sell off ever traced?

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[Calpernia]

Wonder if Bush was in UK for a head nod.


http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/367649|top|11-21-2003::18:06|reuters.html

[Calpernia]

Just emailed you to your new yahoo mail ^-^

[stlnative]

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0,11538,1090956,00.html

from this thread...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026833/posts

'The cars of death will not stop'

Reuters

Saturday November 22, 2003

The Guardian

The following are excerpts from a statement purportedly by a unit of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network which appeared yesterday on an Islamist website, Al Mujahidoun. It was translated by Reuters from Arabic.

Statement from the Jihad al-Qaida Operation Islamic Iron Hammer

We mentioned and we promised in our earlier statement: "As for the tails of America - especially Britain, Italy, Australia and Japan - who did not understand what was said by mojahedin leader Sheikh Osama bin Laden before Ramadan when he threatened that martyrdom operations would not stop inside and outside America... And if they do not understand words, then the cars of death will make them understand".

And we said: "The cars of death will not stop... until Washington concedes to the conditions of the mojahedin Islamist fighters)... " and here now are the cars of death reaping the (souls of the) allies of the tyrant of the era (America) every day... and by the will of God, America will soon look for someone to protect it from the mojahedin on its soil.

In Turkey today, the vanguards of the Abu Hafz al-Masri Brigades targeted the British consul, Roger Short, because of his extensive experience in combating Islam and because he is considered the mastermind of British policy in the region comprising Iraq, Syria, Turkey and Iran. Our cars of death struck the consulate building... and by the grace of God, he was killed.

As for the British bank headquarters, this is a bastion of the British economy, and let Britain and its people know that its alliance with America will not bring it prosperity or security...

We admit that the car of death that targeted the British bank was put in an inappropriate place, which caused some casualties among innocents, and this pains us tremendously, but the media must share our blame because we have repeatedly warned Muslims not to go anywhere near the diplomatic, economic or military headquarters of America and its allies; for our real war, which will begin soon, will have no boundaries and will show no mercy towards the tyrant of the era and his allies.

As for you, Turkey, isn't it time you left the Crusader army and returned to the Islamic nation? Isn't it time you withdrew your army from Afghanistan; stopped all ties with the Zionist entity; stopped providing America with soldiers for Iraq; left the Crusader Atlantic alliance? We consider the government of Turkey as a first-class agent for America and therefore it must choose - peace or America.

O Bush, what have you done to America and its allies... where is the security you promised them, where is the developed Afghanistan, where is the free, secure Iraq?...

... By God, Bush, you've fallen into a trap (Iraq and Afghanistan) as we planned for you. You're engaged in a war with people who love death as much as you love life. So prepare yourself for what is coming.

Listen to us, you criminal, the cars of death will not stop until you concede to our demands and they include:

1 That they free our prisoners in American prisons, especially the prisoners of Guantanamo and the mujahid Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman and those in the jails of the Arab, western, Persian and Jewish tails of America.

2 That they stop their war against Islam and Muslims around the world in the name of fighting terrorism.

3 To purify all Islamic land from the filth of the Jews and Americans, including Jerusalem and Kashmir.

4 For America to stop interfering between us and the tyrannical governments which rule Muslims and for us to set up an Islamic caliphate (state).

O Islamic nation, you must support the mojahedin to victory... God is greatest, Islam is on the way.

Abu Hafz al-Masri Brigades (al-Qaida)

[stlnative]

Are there any major Thanksgiving Parades set-up in California on Thanksgiving Day? I know the Macy's Parade happens in NY on Thanksgiving.

I just have this eerie feeling about them hitting us here in the US on Thanksgiving.

[Wolfhound777]

Was the stock sell off ever traced?
No, and I find this highly unusual. I trade the markets and leave an electronic trail that any gov't official could find. Everything you do is documented either by the broker you use, or the bank you trade through. On top of that, the trades have to be cleared through market makers or clearing houses. If you short stock, you are essentially taking out a loan from your broker. When you short stock, you don't have the shares in your possession so the broker loans you the shares and also charges you interest on the loan. You can't tell me that some major brokerage houses gave loans to unknown people. Once you cover a short sale, you must pay the broker back an amount of money to cover the borrowed shares plus the interest. The major brokerages know who borrowed American Airlines and United Airlines stock that week. The IRS damn sure knows what you have bought and sold.

[Calpernia]

Is that what this was about? Or is this different from trading?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=568&ncid=749&e=1&u=/nm/20031119/bs_nm/financial_forex_arrests_dc

FBI Sting Nets 48 Wall Street Arrests
Tue Nov 18,10:29 PM ET Add Business - Reuters to My Yahoo!

By Hugh Bronstein and Greg Cresci

NEW YORK (Reuters) - FBI (news - web sites) agents on Tuesday arrested about 48 Wall Street foreign exchange professionals in a sting targeting several top firms thought to have defrauded small retail investors of millions of dollars

[Wolfhound777]

No, these brokers were arrested for 20 year ongoing fraud in the FOREX market. This market is not regulated by the SEC and trades in Foreign Exchange rates.