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Why does the US want to ‘dismantle’ the international criminal court?
The Guardian ^ | July 16, 2026 | Kenneth Roth

Posted on 07/21/2026 8:32:06 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

With the pointless war of choice in Iran going poorly, the Trump administration has declared a virtual war on the international criminal court (ICC). Secretary of state, Marco Rubio, vowed on Monday to “dismantle” the court as a supposed threat to US sovereignty. His rationale is laced with sophistry. The administration’s real goal is to secure impunity for war crimes, even those committed on the territory of ICC member states.

In a Wall Street Journal op-ed and a video posted on X, Rubio conjures up a dystopia in which local American officials such as police officers or border patrol agents “could be dragged before an international court, tried by judges from random countries across the globe, found guilty under international laws we neither consent to nor control, and then imprisoned thousands of miles from America”.

This is utter fiction. The ICC has no jurisdiction over crimes committed in the United States. Unless Donald Trump were to start deploying police officers or border patrol agents abroad, the ICC would have no capacity to charge or prosecute them.

Nor can the US government claim not to have consented to the laws applied by the court. They are drawn from treaties such as the genocide convention and the Geneva conventions and protocols that the US government has either ratified or incorporated into its military manuals. Is it really un-American to outlaw genocide?

While Rubio complains that the US government cannot “control” international law, no one should be able to. Law is meant to bind people, not be controlled by them. Although Trump has said “I don’t need international law,” that is a vision no decent leader should embrace.

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KEYWORDS: commiespamonfr; constitution; frukspam; guardian; icc; internationalism; internationalists; kennethroth; multiplefrnicks; randspam; roth; sovereignity; theguardian; ukspamonfr; unconstitutional

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1 posted on 07/21/2026 8:32:06 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Because a global government is accountable to no one.
Nor is there any recourse.


2 posted on 07/21/2026 8:34:27 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Oh, the Guardian ….
The Guardian of failed ideas


3 posted on 07/21/2026 8:40:28 PM PDT by jcon40 (Most Leftist and Marxist protesters are really just Unwitting Globalists )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Because it exists!

It is a Soviet-inspired collection of globalist Marxists who wish to rule the globe...

IMHO, the final airstrike in Iran should be immediately followed by a strike on this gaggle of despots...


4 posted on 07/21/2026 8:55:15 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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Except that its not an utter fiction as the socialist America hating Manchester Guardian claims - not when the same ICC which has no authority over Americans because America never ratified the ICC treaty presumed to try to indict Americans. If they would arrogate to themselves the power to indict Americans abroad despite having no authority to do so, why would they stop at America’s national borders?


5 posted on 07/21/2026 9:01:46 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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Why? For the same exact reasons that we should dismantle the UN.

6 posted on 07/21/2026 9:14:20 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The ICC was conceived to prosecute Americans. Period. No need to sign on.

International “laws” are nothing but gentle peoples agreements, violated at whim, with no consequences.


7 posted on 07/21/2026 9:39:52 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: MinorityRepublican
The ICC has no jurisdiction over crimes committed in the United States.

But what about an overseas traveller? Would the ICC have jurisdiction over them?

8 posted on 07/21/2026 9:42:22 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Things are fraying my nerves!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Founding Fathers would be appalled at the very idea of an International Criminal Court (ICC).


9 posted on 07/21/2026 10:31:42 PM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: MinorityRepublican

Kenneth Roth — where in the US Constitution do you see the ICC?
The People of the US didn’t write the ICC into the judiciary as defined by the US constitution and the Constitution doesn’t grant the ICC any powers.

The Supreme Law of the Land - that is, the US- cannot be in the Netherlands.


10 posted on 07/21/2026 10:36:33 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Isn’t Kenneth Roth a director of the goofy organization Human Rights Watch ?

The guys who pestered Jordan into letting one of the people involved with the Malaysia terror summit in January 2000 go loose, even after phone numbers linking him to the 1993 World Trade Center bombers were found in his pocket litter? He ran from Jordan to Iraq, perhaps via Lebanon according to one report.


11 posted on 07/21/2026 10:46:37 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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...pointless war of choice..

Keeping those crazy 7th century savages from obtaining nuclear weapons is pointless? If all goes well the Iranian people overthrow their regime and the revolution against Islam that started there spreads to other Islamic countries. Ending the plague of Islam from the World seems like one of the best reasons imaginable for Mankind.

12 posted on 07/21/2026 10:55:08 PM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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Because it’s overstepping it’s own mandate. The US is not a party to the Court, and also even if a country is a party to the Rome Statute, if it is able to prosecute because it has a viable justice system, it is not subject to the Court.


13 posted on 07/21/2026 11:33:35 PM PDT by Mimi.M
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“Why does the US want to ‘dismantle’ the international criminal court?”

BECAUSE IT’S BIAS AND IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO ANYONE AND HAS IN THE PAST ACTED LIKE IT WAS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE LEFT.

Also because we in the USA have been ignoring those whinny little pu(*y for years.


14 posted on 07/22/2026 1:21:26 AM PDT by BFW
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Why does the US want to ‘dismantle’ the international criminal court?

Because it primarily indicts people outside their jurisdiction.

C'mon Guardian, ask some tougher questions.

15 posted on 07/22/2026 1:26:10 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Guardian is tabloid trash.


16 posted on 07/22/2026 2:48:39 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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