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Posted on 04/08/2026 11:12:52 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
When history books are written about Operation Epic Fury, analysts will spend chapters debating whether it was wise, justified, or legally sound. But one consequence may stand above all others in terms of shaping the next century of American foreign policy: the Iran conflict may have finally given the United States the political and moral clarity to walk away from NATO.
That may not have been the intention. But sometimes the most important outcomes are the unintended ones.
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The Iran conflict has been enormously clarifying. When the United States launched military operations against Iran — alongside Israel, without consulting European allies — the reaction from NATO partners was swift and revealing. Spain closed its airspace to U.S. bombers departing from the UK and denied American forces use of Rota Naval Station and Morón Air Base for any combat, refueling, or staging missions related to the conflict. France went further: President Emmanuel Macron blocked Israeli aircraft from using French airspace to transport U.S.-made munitions intended for the war effort.
These aren’t the actions of allies. These are the actions of neutral parties — or worse, passive adversaries.
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Trump and Rubio may not have gone into this conflict intending to blow up NATO. But if the Iran war accelerates an honest reckoning with an alliance that denied America its own bases in its own moment of need, then something genuinely valuable will have come from it — even if unintentionally.
Sometimes the most important exits happen through doors that were forced open, not planned.
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The author says Europe is rearming, but I suspect its more to keep EU member nations in line.
One thing I wouldn't do is subsidize a country(s) while it builds up the ability to use that military in a hostile manner against the US (China analogue--I'm old enough to remember videos of streets of people riding bicycles, not driving cars).
About damn time, I have wanted to get out of NATO for a long time they are completely USELESS..who are we gonna rely on, France, France surrendered to Iran before the war even started
NATO delanda est.
EU delanda est.
United Kingdom: The U.K. authorized the use of RAF Fairford for B-1 and B-52 heavy bombers and Diego Garcia (British Indian Ocean Territory) for striking Iranian missile sites.
Germany: Ramstein Air Base has been used for directing attack drones and force deployment, while headquarters in Stuttgart provide strategic planning.
Italy: Aviano Air Base hosts refueling aircraft that facilitate long-range bombing missions.
France: The Istres-Le Tubé Air Base has hosted U.S. refueling aircraft.
Cyprus: RAF Akrotiri, while a British base, has hosted U.S. troops and has been targeted during the conflict.
NATO is a relic of the Cold War and is no longer relevant. The fumbling over Ukraine has revealed that in decisive fashion. May as well turn out the lights, the party’s over,
It would be nothing more than an executive action that carries no weight after Trump leaves office.
Trump is definitely INTENDING it.
Leaving NATO isn’t a bad idea. Extricating ourself from being allied with Israel would be an even better idea.
What Trump’s critics don’t understand about him is his ability to foresee political consequences.
Imagine the political effects of trying to rename the Gulf of America, the Department of War or rejoining NATO.
Antisemites are destined for hell. Repent.
NATO should have been dissolved right after the fall of the Soviet Union. We could maintain military installtions on friendly territory as necessary.
But Trump has to hurry up. Already the Fox News discussion implied it was so cataclysmic to world relations that it probably won’t really happen.
Boooooo.
The Europeans kick sand in our faces at the beach, laugh at us, belittle Trump and then expect to arrogantly go on with their lives. Screw them.
Leaving NATO? GREAT!
Antisemites blah blah blah Hitler blah blah blah Nazi blah blah blah is that all you’ve got? I suppose all you Christian Zionists who supported the attempted genocide of Gaza are the apple of God’s eye huh? You’re just one of the many nutters who posts their nonsense on here.
Ok do you think Hamas threw live babies into ovens? Or was all that made up?
Repent. There is still time.
Doesn’t make any sense. Trump has already admitted he needs allies to help reopen the straight, it was Scott Jenning’s number one reason last night for why it’s not currently open - that none of our allies are helping. So to just abandon them, ensuring they might never ever help again, just doesn’t app up.
“The author says Europe is rearming” they maybe but the muslim overloads they are importing will control the arms.
“Extricating ourself from being allied with Israel would be an even better idea.”
No.
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