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Moscow Meeting Shock: USA abandons Europe & Ukraine | Ray MacGovern & Larry Johnson
Neutrality Studies ^ | 12/4/2025 | Ray McGovern, Larry Johnson

Posted on 12/04/2025 9:18:09 AM PST by SaxxonWoods

"The US delegation just met with Vladimir Putin and his staff in Moscow and although there is no peace agreement yet, we seem to be one step closer to some form of “compromise” as the Russian TASS news agency puts it."

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Introduction: US Delegation in Moscow 00:04:52 "The End of the Beginning": Analyzing the Negotiation Process 00:10:00 Unconventional Diplomacy & The Leaked Dmitriev Call 00:17:58 Kabuki Theater? Parallels to Minsk & Western Desperation 00:23:06 Corruption, NATO, and Escalation in the Black Sea 00:29:21 The Foreign Ministry Takes Over: Lessons from Broken Promises 00:36:31 Can Trump Deliver? The "Deep State" & Territorial Compromise 00:47:19 The New START Treaty as a Litmus Test 00:49:37 The Geopolitical Shift: Russia Looks East, US Looks Inward
1 posted on 12/04/2025 9:18:09 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: SaxxonWoods

God bless Russia.


2 posted on 12/04/2025 9:23:38 AM PST by nwrep
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To: SaxxonWoods

With Europe, Zelensky and our Neocons on the outside looking in, watch out for a false flag operation designed to ruin the Peace negotiation.


3 posted on 12/04/2025 9:24:35 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: nwrep

God bless everyone and may peace come soon.


4 posted on 12/04/2025 9:25:29 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: nwrep

…..Said no one ever.


5 posted on 12/04/2025 9:26:07 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: SaxxonWoods

so sorry fagboy z worshippers and MIC grifters.... you’’ll have to start a war somewhere else


6 posted on 12/04/2025 9:27:05 AM PST by imabadboy99
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To: SaxxonWoods

No...rather we dumped the leeches and moochers from our back.


7 posted on 12/04/2025 9:28:34 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Christianity is a significant part of the religious landscape in Russia, with a diverse range of denominations and followers.”

-Wikipedia


8 posted on 12/04/2025 9:30:14 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: imabadboy99

so when fagboy Z is gone, does ukraine get to repeal faggot marriage that he pushed through during wartime? Does ukraine get to have elections again that he cancelled? Do Christian churches get to rebuild that he banned?


9 posted on 12/04/2025 9:31:43 AM PST by imabadboy99
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Moscow Meeting Shock: USA abandons Europe & Ukraine | Ray MacGovern & Larry Johnson”

Oh no! A shocking meeting of the USA abandons everyone as the Russian TASS news agency puts it.

Click bait nonsense.


10 posted on 12/04/2025 9:31:57 AM PST by bosco24
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To: All

MarcusMaximous Watch: Day 32 since last comment.


11 posted on 12/04/2025 9:36:07 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: bosco24

This is why Ukraine’s people are finally trying negotiation now, they know they are toast. Trump trying a different way to force them to try a little harder. We are short of weapons to send, and too much USA money just gets rerouted into the wrong pockets.

Time for the EU to send troops if they want to keep Ukraine in the game.


12 posted on 12/04/2025 9:48:57 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: All

Do Ray and Larry say that like they think it is a bad thing?

(Sorry, I don’t waste my limited bandwidth watching videos of self-proclaimed experts I never heard of, opining on stuff.)


13 posted on 12/04/2025 9:49:31 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: imabadboy99
so sorry fagboy z worshippers and MIC grifters.... you’’ll have to start a war somewhere else

Let's just hope that Latvia doesn't start a war with Russia by drawing those peaceful Russia forces into their country where some of them can be killed by the warmongering Latvians.

14 posted on 12/04/2025 9:51:12 AM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands (If someone says that there are no absolutes, ask them if they are absolutely sure.)
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To: LegendHasIt

“(Sorry, I don’t waste my limited bandwidth watching videos of self-proclaimed experts I never heard of, opining on stuff.)”

And yet you want to know what they said. Now that’s funny. If you looked up their backgrounds you might be more interested in their take.


15 posted on 12/04/2025 9:54:46 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
From the YouTube channel:

Welcome to Neutrality Studies, a channel dedicated to peace and world affairs. My name is Pascal Lottaz, I'm an Associate Professor at Kyoto University (Japan) where I research neutrality in international relations.

I'm not a journalist but because I find MSM full of problematic spin, I try to get more clarity about what's going on myself. I'm doing so mostly by talking to smart people who know more than me, and by comparing their different insights. Hence, you find a lot of interviews on my channel—besides a couple of "analysis" videos which are my own take at things.

Disclaimer: sometimes people complain that my views are not "neutral" at all. Totally true! I never claimed to be neutral. I'm claiming to study neutrality. If anything, I am a "neutralist". I believe that more neutral countries in the world can help us to be less violent. When it comes to ongoing mass-violence, I have strong opinions.

My disclaimer: When it comes to a 58 minute long YouTube video, no. Just no.

The fellow has a website, at which I perused an article, "What Will Security Guarantees Secure?" The gist is "nope."

I agree with your view. "Time for the EU to send troops if they want to keep Ukraine in the game." Time will tell. I suspect the EC/EU is still trying to get President Trump to do their will. So that they don't have to.

16 posted on 12/04/2025 9:58:14 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Probably got caught up in a penis piano player raid for conscripts and is on the front lines.


17 posted on 12/04/2025 9:59:34 AM PST by ChuckHam
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To: Vermont Lt
.....Said no one ever.

Sorry to correct you, again, but millions of Christians worldwide pray for Russia on a daily basis, especially since Fatima.

Thank God almighty evil has lost in the Ukraine. And yes, true evil. The faggotist, satanic globaloids a la the WEF suffered a costly and humiliating, defeat. So did the anti-Christ, anti-freedom, pro-Marxist EU. The CIA, MI6 and 5-eyes assets - some of the worst humans alive - also, finally, deservedly got their asses handed to them on a platter.

The Bidens, the Derp State, neocon rats, and "ugly American" Fox News goons like Generals Keane and Kellogg are discredited - Murdoch propaganda assets failed. NATO is, thankfully, likely to dissolve.

The war was ugly and horrific, no doubt, but this outcome is huge victory for truth and light, and those who've been praying for righteousness.

You're a decent poster VL, but, to your detriment, you threw-in with the wrong crowd.

18 posted on 12/04/2025 10:07:19 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I paid no attention to the poster. I have followed Lt. Colonel Larry Johnson for a long time. Knowledgeable, calm, well connected person in my opinion.


19 posted on 12/04/2025 10:11:20 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

If “Europe” is “shocked”, then they haven’t been paying attention to multiple open statements and, I’m sure, private communications from Imperial HQ in Washington.

If they want to fight Russia, fine. Just do it without us.


20 posted on 12/04/2025 10:19:12 AM PST by Jim Noble
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