Thomas Massie: "Epstein had close ties to our own intelligence agencies and Israel's intelligence agencies, that's why there's so much effort in trying to stop this"

Not The Bee ^ | November 19, 2025 | Harambe Harambe

[Red Badger]

I'm not saying it, Thomas Massie is saying it.

BREAKING:

🇺🇲🇮🇱 "Epstein had close ties to our own intelligence agency and Israel's intelligence agencies." - Republican Rep. Thomas Massie. pic.twitter.com/II9fdhGZ1h— Megatron (@Megatron_ron) November 19, 2025

Yesterday, Speaker Johnson told us he was worried that if we declassified items in the files without consulting the intelligence agencies, it would be "incredibly dangerous" because, uh, critical sources must be protected.

Leftwing commentators were quick to come to their own wild conclusions:

BREAKING: 🇮🇱 🇺🇸 Speaker Mike Johnson claims the Epstein files CANT be released unredacted because they contain intelligence-agency material that falls under “national security.”

Translation: “The Israeli Mossad has videos of us r-aping children.”
pic.twitter.com/WYRFeHHNtw— ADAM (@AdameMedia) November 19, 2025

We also found out that Speaker Johnson, and possibly Trump, were not too happy about the bill:

NEW: Speaker Johnson tells me he’s “deeply disappointed” the Senate approved the Epstein files bill without making changes.

He said he spoke to Trump about it tonight: “We both have concerns,” Johnson said.

I asked if Trump may veto it: “I’m not saying that. I don’t know.” pic.twitter.com/qdErlrMKWY— Mychael Schnell (@mychaelschnell) November 19, 2025

Here's that full clip of Massie with a bit more context, which I'll quote below:

🚨Massie finally says the part the GOP’s been choking on:

“The Speaker, the Attorney General, the FBI Director, the President, and the Vice President could’ve spared our party months of humiliation if they’d just done the right thing four months ago.”

They knew. They stalled.… pic.twitter.com/JPjOQ7NHDd— Brian Allen (@allenanalysis) November 18, 2025

I'm concerned that now [Trump] is opening a flurry of investigations and I believe they may be trying to use those investigations as a predicate for not releasing the files ... I'm afraid they're going to try to use a provision of the law that allows you not to release these materials if they're subject of an ongoing investigation ... the release of which would harm the ongoing investigation.

Things are getting spicy out in Washington!

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; coverup; epstein; epsteindistraction; epsteinhysteria; epsteinhysterics; epsteinobsessed; epsteinobsession; frantisemiticcult; jewhatersonfr; lookwhohatesjews; massiesanantisemite; massiesarino; mullahloversonfr; randpaulsucks

[Jim Noble]

There’s going to be major embarrassments to our allies.

Well, then, it's about time we found out who is who.

[Red Badger]

“Epstein was a CIA operative...”

I would bet that he was an operative for many, many intel agencies all over the world, not just ours.

Knowledge is a fungible asset...............

[Jim Noble]

Antisemites just salivating to take down Israel regardless of the real potential damage to US national security

Let's just start with how you believe Israel contributes anything of a positive nature to US national security, and leave the insults out of it.

If you think there is a case to be made for a positive Israeli contribution to US national security, let's hear it.

[dforest]

Well, you said for the greater good. We hear that out of RATs all the time.

My arse does know that. 😁

[Captainpaintball]

HIS NAME IS EPSTEIN. So he works for Iran? The saudis? Maxwell the daughter and Maxwell the father are Jews who worked for Israel. And the daddy was buried on the mount of olives in a VIP spot. Ehud barak was one of his best customers. They were all involved in the MEGA group. This is what they DO. They recently bugged the president’s motorcade. They’ve been doing this for 80 years. And this is why so many is politicians kiss the wall and do Israel’s bidding. (And also do nothingyahoo’s dirty underwear and weeks of laundry when he visits the White House.) Because israel is not our bestie, and most of not all of our politicians are compromised. I suspect many of them act as Israel ass kissers not just because “tha baaah-bull says sooo… that issss-raaaah-elll is blessssed bah GAWD, dontcha know!” But because “we as chreee-isht-chunnnns must bless them or else I will be exposed, I mean… WE will be PUNISHED! BY GAWD!! Yeah, that’s it!”

[vivenne]

Massie could have saved us all time
, money, energy by pulling this stunt when Biden was President.

[Mr Rogers]

For some people, it ALWAYS seems to be about “the Jews”!

We may find out if he had ties to ANY intelligence agency, but my own suspicion is that Epstein largely indulged in slightly underage girls/women mostly on his own. In Florida, 17 is slightly underage. In most European countries, “of legal age” is 14-15!

I think those should be higher, and it is 18 in a number of US states (including my own). But it is pretty hypocritical of people to point fingers over a 17 year old having sex if their own country allows it at 14...

Also, TRAFFICKING - which is also what Epstein is accused of - has no age limit.

But yeah, Epstein was a criminal. He was likely a blackmailer and I strongly suspect a human trafficker and I’d have no problem applying a death penalty. But I’m waiting to see the EVIDENCE that MOSSAD was helping him - or the CIA!

Thomas Massie is one of those click-bait politicians I despise.

https://jakubmarian.com/age-of-consent-by-country-in-europe/

[billakay]

So if it turns out that Israel/Mossad was running Epstein for decades, abusing underage girls in order to get blackmail on influential people in order to use them to push Israel’s interests forward, you will still support Israel? At what point do we as a society tell the State of Israel to **** off?

[GOPJ]

...Bill Clinton flew on Epstein’s plane 27 times and ALMOST EVERY TIME that Clinton was on the plane there were underage girls on the plane.

The bimbos and pretentious 'men' of the press won't like this one bit. Maybe they can check with Larry Summers - former classy President of Harvard... on getting women 'horizontal'.... It's time to OUT ALL THE PERVES ON THE LOLITA EXPRESS. EVERY NAME - THEY WEREN'T ALL PEDOS AND THEY CAN DEFEND THEMSELVES. BUT IT'S TIME TO OUT ALL OF 'EM. Then go after members of the press who ignored minors being trafficked by the cartels into kiddie whore houses.

IF our 'intelligence' and Israel's 'intelligence' were using children as honeypots then we need to out all of them... enough with this evil crap in the name of stupid pieces of almost useless information. OUT THEM ALL

[GOPJ]

The only reason not to release blackmail files is to maintain the blackmail.

Ding, ding, ding... we have a thread winnah!

[silverleaf]

Pix or it never happened

:-)

[McCarthysGhost]

Washington has decided that the best way to fight a Trump second term and ultimately the restoration of America is to lite their own hair on fire and go from one concocted crisis to next. They need to control the narrative any way that they can but, in the end, self-immolation only helps your opponents. This whole phony anti-corruption gambit will boomerang back so hard on Washington’s degenerate political class.

[kiryandil]

Thomas Assie...

[wardaddy]

It was a campaign promise
You wish to split hairs
Feel free to

Trump did not back track on Epstein till I think June so I’m not sure your point there

Transparency was touted over and over during the election

And Patel and Bongino both were very very vocal about this

Bongino if it’s to be believed threatened resigning over it being “sidelined”

It’s funny I’m listening to buck sexton and he used almost the same term “campaign promise”

And I never listen to him hardly but my Bluetooth is down so no podcasts as usual on my daily run arounds I do for old man work

I’ve been here 25 years and have seen the “thou shan’t criticize man of the hour “ thing before

I’m not one of those

Trump may be George Washington great he’s damn good but he got huge pressure it would appear over this but the politics of it won out

I don’t think it’s about the girls but more about intelligences exposure over Epstein role as a cut out or facilitator

But don’t people will still be unhappy about “too much redaction”

The irony is Trump is without a doubt the most exonerated celeb who existed at any time in the Epstein orbit

[Red Badger]

I expect a flurry of sudden retirements fairly soon.............

[mass55th]

The CIA hired known Nazi war criminals...Klaus Barbie, “The Butcher of Lyon” being one of them. And because the CIA lost track of all the Nazis they hired, who then hired other Nazis down the line that the CIA didn’t know about, that people like Dr. Joesph Mengele were able to escape to South America through the ratlines those Nazis created. The CIA hired the dredges of society to conduct their dirty work around the world. Why wouldn’t they hire Epstein too?

[mass55th]

"I think most people with a brain understand that Epstein was connected to Mossad"

Agree. Hitler's SS guerrilla warfare specialist Otto Skorzeny worked for Mossad, so why wouldn't they use Epstein?

[mass55th]

""Not much greater good has ever come out of those intel agencies."

You got that right!! They created more problems than they ever solved.

[mass55th]

"Senator Dick Blumenthal met his wife when she was 16 ( he was 31)…does that make him a pedo?"

My father was 32, and my mother was 16 when they married in 1936. It wasn't a shot-gun marriage either. My oldest sister wasn't born until 4 years later.

[mass55th]

"I would bet that he was an operative for many, many intel agencies all over the world, not just ours."

The thing that has always pissed me off about this stuff, is that these agencies knowingly allowed assets like Epstein to continue violating the law, and ruining people's lives for some intel.