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Democracy vs. Republic — Why the Founders Rejected Majority Rule
vanity | October 31, 2025 | CIB-173RDABN

Posted on 10/31/2025 1:58:29 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN

Democracy vs. Republic — Why the Founders Rejected Majority Rule

When Democrats today say they want to “save democracy,” conservatives often counter that the United States is not a democracy but a republic. Both sides are right in their own way—but they’re talking about two very different visions of government.

When Democrats use the phrase “save democracy,” they mean it quite literally: rule by the majority. In that system, whoever gets the most votes wins, and the will of the majority is considered the highest form of legitimacy. This especially applies to the presidency, where Democrats argue that whoever wins the most votes nationwide should occupy the Oval Office. To them, anything else—like the Electoral College—is unfair, outdated, or anti-democratic.

But the Founding Fathers rejected that very idea. They had seen what pure democracy produced in other nations, including in England’s parliamentary system, where a temporary majority could seize control and rule without restraint. They saw that the passions of the moment could sweep away the rights of the few, and that policy would swing wildly with every shift in public mood.

The Founders admired some parts of the British system—its respect for law, its experience with limited monarchy—but they also saw its instability. In Parliament, the majority is the government, and once it has power, there are few checks to stop it. The rights of citizens exist only as long as the majority allows them. To the Founders, that was too fragile a foundation for liberty.

They built something different: a republic. A system where the people still govern, but through layers of representation, separation of powers, and constitutional limits. It was designed to slow things down, to force deliberation, and to prevent fleeting majorities from remaking the nation in a moment of passion.

The Electoral College, the Senate, and the division of powers between states and the federal government all serve this purpose. They make sure that every region and every class of citizens has a voice, not just the biggest population centers. Without those safeguards, states like California and New York would decide every election, and the smaller states might as well not exist.

So when Democrats say they want to save “democracy,” they mean majority rule. When conservatives insist on preserving the “republic,” they mean constitutional balance—the system that protects everyone, not just the loudest or largest group at any given time.

The Founders didn’t reject democracy because they disliked freedom. They rejected it because they understood human nature: that passion and power need restraint, and that liberty endures only when even the minority has rights that the majority cannot touch.


TOPICS: Government; History
KEYWORDS: 17thamendment; anotherstupidvanity; cib173rdabn; juststop; ntsa
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1 posted on 10/31/2025 1:58:29 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN

In the states you mentioned and I could add more; the large
cities run the state and rural people are
dis-enfranchised. Our Federal system was designed to prevent
that sort of tyranny, but the states did not adopt that model.


2 posted on 10/31/2025 2:05:54 AM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: CIB-173RDABN

If 51 percent voted to kill all Black People would that be good? that would be DEMOCRACY. Leftist stop talking about Democracy!


3 posted on 10/31/2025 2:47:11 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Great article! Thank you!


4 posted on 10/31/2025 2:52:31 AM PDT by albie
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Here is democracy! If 51 percent said “lets kill all black people”...would that be DEMOCRACY? Should we do it because its the majority?

Tell me how I’m wrong!


5 posted on 10/31/2025 2:57:25 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: CIB-173RDABN
HIT THIS

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6 posted on 10/31/2025 3:03:46 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: CIB-173RDABN
So when Democrats say they want to save “democracy,” they mean majority rule.

Except when the majority vote against them, such as in Prop. 8.

7 posted on 10/31/2025 3:14:36 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

We stopped teaching this in our schools and now an entire generation has no idea.


8 posted on 10/31/2025 3:24:50 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie. Normal is not coming back, but Jesus will. )
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To: rellic
There is an important difference between the Federal-state relationship and the state-county and state-city relationship. The states are not creatures of the Federal government. The Constitution is a compact among 13 formerly independent republics to hand over foreign affairs, currency, military power, etc., to the Federal government. In contrast, cities and counties are creations of the state. They can be created, eliminated, or taken over by the state government. For instance, in Texas, the state recently took over the operations of the Fort Worth Independent School District. (Texas public schools operate independently of city or county governments.)

What maintained rural power in the states was that at least the upper house (Senate) of the legislatures was apportioned to permit representation of rural counties above their population numbers. In 1961, the Supreme Court ended these arrangements by requiring apportionment to be based on "one man, one vote". Suddenly, downstate Illinois, upstate New York, inland California, northern Michigan, et. al., lost their political leverage.

9 posted on 10/31/2025 3:49:40 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

Too much information.

Democracy is 2 lions and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.


10 posted on 10/31/2025 4:02:24 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Great post! I totally agree! Our guys knew that Plato was onto something!


11 posted on 10/31/2025 4:19:49 AM PDT by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Thanks for posting. Mob rule supersedes individual rights.


12 posted on 10/31/2025 4:39:22 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

The Athenian democracy was the creation of the leader of a second place noble family to establish permanent control of the city-state.


13 posted on 10/31/2025 5:45:38 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Why? Because non of us is as dumb as all of us.

Mod rules is always by the stupid savages resorting to force.


14 posted on 10/31/2025 5:49:39 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Democracy is two wolves and one sheep considering dinner.


15 posted on 10/31/2025 5:55:40 AM PDT by GingisK
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It’s why Trump calling for the nuclear option is a real bad idea. Imagine a democrat party with a one vote majority. They could virtually destroy the country in short order.


16 posted on 10/31/2025 7:06:28 AM PDT by pawpawrick (I had a life once but my job ate it)
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To: GingisK

It’s why Trump calling for the nuclear option is a real bad idea. Imagine a democrat party with a one vote majority. They could virtually destroy the country in short order.


17 posted on 10/31/2025 7:06:28 AM PDT by pawpawrick (I had a life once but my job ate it)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
Let me guess -- repeal the 17th Amendment? Never heard that one before.

Automatic spellcheck was bad enough. AI posts are much bigger piles of crap. Just today I noticed a weird sentence construction in a reply to me, I suspect it was an AI-generated text manually posted, but now I wonder.

18 posted on 10/31/2025 7:11:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

They built something different: a republic. A system where the people still govern, but through layers of representation, separation of powers, and constitutional limits. It was designed to slow things down, to force deliberation, and to prevent fleeting majorities from remaking the nation in a moment of passion.


Yet, we have too many conservatives who want an efficient govt. They want their lollipop NOW.


19 posted on 10/31/2025 7:22:52 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

If you go back and read about it, we owe the rejection of majority rule to the Commonwealth of Virginia. At the time its boundaries extended to the Pacific and included parts of present day Mexico. It’s population already outnumbered most of the smaller colonies and no one was going to join a union where they would never have any say.


20 posted on 10/31/2025 9:03:01 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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