Russia Waited for NATO Cargo Planes to Land

You Tube ^ | 21 Sep 25 | Mar-san

[delta7]

Russia Waited for NATO Cargo Planes to Land—Then 3000Kg Warhead Destroyed Ukraine's Air Base….

[Williams]

Just to reset the reality of this conversation a bit. The original poster didn’t just share a news article. They shared the news article and attacked Freepers supposedly “cheerleading” for the war - before anyone even commented on the article.

I support Trump as he tries to end the war.

[Williams]

Exactly.

Putin is a demented thug. That’s just reality. It’s obvious Russia has suffered losses for years now which are way out of proportion with what they have obtained.

But frankly Putin doesn’t care and that’s why he can win the war because he doesn’t care if he wins a Ukraine that is rubble, and he doesn’t care how many Russians he kills in the process.

Russia has been stalemated after significant gains but gains which are about 20% of ukraine.

Can Russia actually lose the war? Certainly the combined Western armies can roll back Russia. That’s obvious because Russia can’t even advance against just Ukrainian forces. But the Western countries in the United States aren’t prepared to take that risk.

So what’s going to happen? Probably nothing that gets predicted here or by either side in the conflict. Most likely Ukraine is not going to be fully occupied, and Russia is not going to be completely expelled from Ukraine. But who knows.

[blitz128]

If the military budget is “reduced” would imagine funds from other budget areas will end up as military spending.

Same result, military spending will increase and civilian investment reduced.

As to “brute force”, that force has gained little and 3 1/2+ years later I see no evidence of any grand advance limited or not

[ReganFan4ever]

If you rely on western MSM, you are being duped.

I agree 100%.

[TexasGator]

———z wiki

In late March, prior to the Russian retreat from Kyiv, Prosecutor General of Ukraine Iryna Venediktova stated that Ukrainian prosecutors had collected evidence of 2,500 suspected cases of war crimes committed by Russia during the invasion and had identified “several hundred suspects”.[44] Matilda Bogner, the head of the UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine, also raised concerns about the precise documentation of civilian casualties, specifically in regions and cities under heavy fire, highlighting the lack of electricity and reliable communications.[45]

Under attack by the Ukrainian military, Russian troops in the Bucha area retreated north, as part of the general Russian retreat from the Kyiv area. Ukrainian forces entered Bucha on 1 April 2022.[46]

[GenXPolymath]

“Any NATO weapons delivered to Ukraine are valid targets.”

Someone understands how the rules of war work. The aircraft flying in those weapons, ships on the high seas are all valid targets as well. It I am sure the Hague would also agree the ports where the ships were loaded or the airbases the cargo took off from also falls under the flag of valid targets. Be careful what you wish for NATO you might just get it.

Not our circus not our monkeys. As a top 5% tax payer am so tired of my money going to a f@g grifter and his cabal of thieves and warmongers. Let the europeeons deal with a slav on slav conflict.

[grumpygresh]

Do you support non-military actions against Russia; sanctions, exclusion of Russia from SWIFT?

[Red6]

Charles Schwab and the WEF define your supposed “American” side.

Hint: That’s ain’t American.

Please tell me which of our founding fathers was for expansionist, economically motivated, expeditionary wars? Which one of our founding fathers thought it was a good idea to get tangled up in European affairs?

Please tell me, and not with some fairly tale about the Russians conquering Europe, how has this war made me or the average American 1) more safe, 2.) more wealthy, 3.) more free?

Just blindly supporting every war because our leaders today tell us this is justified isn’t “American,” nor is it intelligent.

[Williams]

Our founding fathers sought to make alliances with European powers because we needed them first for support during our Revolution and later for conflicts with england.

We only survived because of intervention by France.

Now, regarding a simple article about one military strike on ukraine, why would I have to engage with you and explain something about Charles Schwab and the WEF?

And you talk about fantasies?

[Midwesterner53]

Russian propaganda crap loved by their disciples here on Free Republic.

[Red6]

Revisionist BS.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington‘s_Farewell_Address

America was damn near isolationist and sought a neutral stance regards Europe, not choosing sides and leading global military alliances waging war around the planet in accordance to what some oligarch / corporation wants.

Our interventionism is really a post WWII reality, it’s a newer paradigm you’re trying to sell as always having been there.

Even such things as the Monroe Doctrine were intended to keep them out of our affairs and us out of theirs, i.e. the spheres of influence we try to reinterpret today as bad and pretend Russia has no right too, even though the UK, France and we have them and militarily enforce.

—Wars for money are generally not moral.

EU and US economic interests wanted EU and NATO expansion into Ukraine.

—Wars that are based on expansionism are generally not moral.

This is not Russia expanding, it’s us: https://youtu.be/ug2468hDl6E?si=DE_drOuh71a6_kGf

—Wars that are expeditionary are generally not moral. You’re not defending your homeland etc.

When you combine an expeditionary campaign that is economically motivated and expansionist in nature, you probably don’t have the Just War theory behind you: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_war_theory

All you have left is rhetoric, like pretending anyone that disagrees with you is unAmerican, and throwing idiotic slogans around like democracy, human rights, WMD, terrorism and sovereignty.

BTW, which nation we have invaded and or occupy has become democratic, sovereign and respecting of human rights? Iraq? Syria? Libya? Why don’t we apply these same arguments to our own best friends like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morocco?

[Red6]

EU and US economic interests wanted Ukraine in the EU and NATO because these provide the assurances/security, market access, and harmonization of policies sought by big multi-national corporations financial institutions etc.

But NATO is a military alliance and Ukraine is on Russia’s border. That poses a problem.

We won’t tolerate a private Chinese firm operating the Panama canal 1,900 miles from our border with 7 countries between us.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/07/world/americas/panama-canal-trump.html

But you’re expecting Russia to accept the world’s most powerful nation, and the world’s most powerful military alliance, to be able to build any number of bases, station any number of troops and their equipment, missile defense, nukes, hyper sonic missiles on Russia’s border for any length of time.

Do you actually think about what you’re advocating, or does someone just need to waive an American flag in your face and your brain shuts off?

[Williams]

Keep ranting on first of all we had to depend on foreign assistance to survive when we were at our founding that’s just a fact.

After we were founded, we had political interests that favored the British and we had political interests that favored the french. That’s just a fact.

And now we live in the modern world a real world and not your fantasy world we can’t leave the rest of the world we can’t go back to 1779 and we can’t ignore other countries just because you’re upset about Charles schwab.

[USA-FRANCE]

Well, Trump rightfully thinks that if America sells weapons to the EU, NATO and UKRAIN it will bring in some money to the USA. It’s not a bad thing for America’s economy. Right?

[kiryandil]

I think the sanctions are stupid. Russia is not our enemy.

Sanctions are an act of war.

[kiryandil]

exclusion of Russia from SWIFT

exclusion of Russia from SWIFT encourages the BRICS members to develop other economic tools to replace SWIFT. Again, stupid.

[Robert DeLong]

Ex[lain how bring for Ukraine, is being for America?

We shouldn't have started this proxy war that was evil on several levels, and we shouldn't have fomented a color-revolution in Ukraine as well.

Were you supporting the same man that threw the gates of America wide open to all comers? Is our involvement in Ukraine something that benefits America? I don't see where Ukraine has benefitted at all.

Ukraine should have just claimed neutrality, and played nice with Russia & Europe.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Well, Trump rightfully thinks that if America sells weapons to the EU, NATO and UKRAIN it will bring in some money to the USA. It's not a bad thing for America's economy. Right?"

You deflect. Here's the reality ---

"Q2 2025: 36,211,469" and rising....

Source: Federal Debt: Total Public Debt (GFDEBTN) Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis data in a scalable graph.

---- "Zelensky is making America rich Again." That was an absurd statement, Competing estimates for what the US has spent in Ukraine so far are from $128 billion to $175 billion, based on the Congress' bills.

For this nation to "make money" selling weapons, we need at the minimum $128 billion ins sales TO BREAK EVEN. When that happens, one may further discuss this. Until then, the red ink has flowed and continues to flow, albeit less.

Since I cite sources, it's time and past time for you to support your assertions with verifiable sources.

[Williams]

I think war is an act of war.

[Williams]

Once again, why does a simple reaction to this war report and the original post, require that anyone has to answer all this mish mash about the Ukraine war.

Russia hit an airfield. Ok.

And you believe craziness about the “proxy war we started”. While Russia invades Ukraine for three years.

Sad for you.