Posted on 09/22/2025 7:08:57 AM PDT by delta7
Russia Waited for NATO Cargo Planes to Land—Then 3000Kg Warhead Destroyed Ukraine's Air Base….
Maybe it rolled under the desk? 😉😂😂
You nailed it. 👍
First, this is obviously and painfully fake story from a fake news channel on YouTube. Second, American conservatives hate Democrats, Biden, the powers in charge, so much they will fall for anything opposing them, no matter how fake it is. The fake YouTube news channel trick: Murat-SAN (not Mar San) started in October 2019 as a Turkish language military news channel. From October 2019 to May 2022, they published 250 videos, then stopped. That was around ten videos per month.
Eight months ago, they started back up as a pro-Russian channel, showing typical premade pro-Russian media. They have published 275 videos since starting back up, around ten per week. Someone has to get the videos, produce, edit, write a script, and all that. Producing that many videos a week is a job of a full time production company, not a independent YouTuber... who happens to have a telegram channel.
It really isn't hard to go to a YouTube channel, and scan through both the oldest and most recent videos to check if there is anything funny going on. There is a lot of buying out old content creators, to spam pro-Russian narratives on YouTube, and having bots and fake accounts fill the comments to fool the algorithms into treating it as real engagement.
The fake story trick:
Who cares what is shown, when the voice over can be anything and bots and shills will praise it no matter how bad it is? As for the title of destroyed NATO cargo planes, the video does not mention it at all. The title is click bait.
Honestly, a lot of this Russia beating Ukraine video clips, looks like two-year-old Ukraine beating Russia videos.
No. Where is it?
,,, you'll notice I wasn't specifically interested in Russia's viewpoint when I posed my questions to Williams. I referenced the lack of coverage in the west though; a distinct difference. He talked as if he was personally on the front lines of the battlefield. I assessed he had as much time as I had - [off the battlefield] to answer two questions I thought he had the knowledge to engage in, but no. He projects a top tier seat in the house but has the depth of a supermarket car park puddle. There's a war going on, but not for everyone.
You are on a thread in which people are shilling for Russia, in fact they are attempting to rid Free Republic of anyone who disagrees with them.
But you can’t find the Russian viewpoint? And of course you then insult those who disagree.
Why should anyone spend their time explaining things at your request?
Wars like Ukraine lack ANY moral legitimacy and there is no interest served for the average American.
This war serves special interests, no different than when we installed Pinochet because US copper mining firms wanted Allende ousted.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with any moral cause and in fact all these faux arguments of democracy, human rights, sovereignty, WMD and terrorism actually conceal an economically motivated, expeditionary, and expansionist interventionism.
Then someone like you comes along and attempts to argue that it’s “unAmerican” not to support such a war, but you can’t answer how this war has made the average American safer, wealthier, or more free. In fact, all it’s done is made the average American less safe, and cost hundreds of billions of his tax money.
Since Russia is no longer seen as a true near peer conventionally, since they are our only true competitor controlling the world’s oil and gas supply, they have no media representation in the US, no lobbying, no campaign contributions, no party contributions, and the interests of the US and EU coincide regards Ukraine, we decided we’re just going to steam roll the Russians. F the Russians and F their national security concerns.
Can you really claim Biden didn’t know better?
https://youtu.be/fIoRKLdwxXA?si=JDrg8qi1OhVlPlsi (1997)
This caused a war: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/
This war was predictable, avoidable, and unnecessary from any national security perspective we and our NATO partners have.
We can call him a madman, KGB guy... but the truth is, if YOU had been in Putin’s shoes 2021, you would have done the exact same thing. You would NOT have allowed NATO expanding into Ukraine and you would have blocked this by military means if necessary.
The Biden administration caused this war. It was another collosal policy failure like the withdrawal from Afghanistan. But because Russia has no media and political influence/representation, you have massive censorship; because corporate/oligarch and government, the US and EU are in agreement (no counter current), and most importantly Biden is a Democrat (most the MSM will protect him), he got a free pass.
This is simply put, a stupid war that never should have been, but where you pretend like it’s “unAmerican” if you don’t stand on the sidelines cheering this stupidity on.
Excuse me, I didn’t come along and tell anyone that it is un-American to oppose involvement in the Ukraine war.
My comments react to people who support RUSSIA in the Ukraine war, and who say things against America or even against Western civilization, and who cheer attacks by Russia against the West.
As for your absolute claim there is no moral basis for the war, tell that to the Ukrainians who have turned back and held off the Russian superpower armies for more than three years.
You can also talk to all the Ukrainian civilian dead.
Yes there are moral and strategic arguments to oppose Russian aggression.
As for “somebody like me” who dares to hold an opinion you don’t like, I SUPPORT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DECISIONS on the Ukraine war, which he is trying to end.
President Trump has a hand picked administration that hates “neocon” wars and if they haven’t just walked away and given Ukraine to Russia, I guess they know a lot more than you.
But if President Trump does decide to walk away, I’ll support him on that as well. Which I’ve said many times.
No sad for you that you still refuse to accept the truth. Dp you also believe that Biden received 81 million legitimate votes?
Once again, why does a simple reaction to this war report and the original post, require that anyone has to answer all this mish mash about the Ukraine war. Russia hit an airfield. Ok
Now to answer your question, there are a lot of reasons to question this conflict, and our involvement in it, and if you can't figure out the answer to your question, that doesn't reflect well upon you.
Let me help you out. The obvious reasons, right off the bat, are the huge loss of lives on both sides along with the massive destruction & the instability it has caused. Then on top of it we tried to impact Russia negatively using economic weapons to get Russia to stop protecting itself from the real threats of continued NATO expansion, after promises were made to not expand eastward with NATO expansion after the fall of the Soviet Union.
You refuse to acknowledge that continued belligerent behavior towards a nation, only makes that nation react in negative ways.
If you were personally being threatened, you might find yourself, becoming rather paranoid, and seek to protect yourself from those threats. It's a normal reaction to the perceived threat, especially if those threatening you had lied to you over & over & were trying to put the blame on you, even though you had done nothing more than what they had done.
We are not in a position to save the world, when it is abundantly clear to anyone paying attention, that we are being attacked, from both internal & external forces that are trying to destroy this nation.
Our leaders have racked 37+ trillion in debt, and we have an addition 200+ trillion in unfunded liabilities that are just waiting to explode on the scene to absolutely cripple us.
Because you refuse to accept that this conflict was not because of Russia, but instead was the result of a designed event to take place, to once & for all destroy Russia. All the evidence is there, but evidence is not as important to you as your feelings are, apparently.
Unfortunately it was not only an ill-conceived plan, it was not carried out successfully, because there was really no support for it, except by those who can't see the realities in play.
Ukraine was not well equipped to take on Russia, and those promising support for Ukraine did not have the resources, or the will, to support Ukraine in a kinetic combat against Russia. Nonetheless, they have proven themselves to be far more motivated, and Russia proved to be far less competent than many believed.
Reality has a way of turning the tables, if there is an advantage, & Russia always had that advantage, and unlike us, Russia's leaders do not backdown because of pressure from its citizens.
Another missed calculation was the threat of the dollar being toppled as the world's currency, and this ill-advised proxy war provided the stimuli necessary for it to take root, grow legs & become a major threat worldwide. That coupled with a threat of a widening conflict, and possibly yet another World War, bodes well for no one & especially humanity.
It would have been very easy to nip this conflict in the bud. The fact that it wasn't, and they used the Minsk Accords only as a ruse to prepare Ukraine for kinetic warfare, should be the fact that convinces you that the fighting was what was desired.
Apparently, you still can't see the evidence that confirms, that a proxy war was what they wanted to take place, because peace was very attainable.
If Putin wanted to recapture Ukraine, why would he wait many years trying to seek a peaceful resolution? What would be his motivation now, knowing that he had been lied to regarding NATO, and then lied to again about the peace process that he thought Europe was serious & sincere about obtaining, only to learn the truth after Angela Merkle spoke the truth that they were never serious about seeking a peaceful resolution.
Even after all of this evidence has been revealed, you still reject it as BS that this proxy war was by design.
Pay attention.
I despise Biden in every way and for every policy. Don’t pull your Biden bs on me pal.
In case you didn’t notice, DJT is our president now, and I support him to navigate our way in this world.
If you are in any way not supporting Trump, please take your Biden baloney and shove it, because YOU are the democrats’ handmaiden.
Some have forgotten two very important principles. Support Trump and support America.
Cheering for Russia?!
Keep your day job because your “analysis” of the behavior of Russia is delusional at best.
Putin could end this war tomorrow and Trump will let him keep his gains and pave an international force to prevent any further conflict.
Wake up and support President Trump. Stop pretending you are opposing some other administration which is no longer in power. Trump is.
War is ugly.
You should have thought of that when you pushed the NATO East expansion issue to that point.
Again:
-How has this war made me wealthier?
-How has this war made me safer?
-How has that war made me more free?
Is this war for me, the average citizen?
What’s in it for me, other than an opportunity for you to spew vapid slogans like democracy, aggression, unprovoked, human rights, sovereignty, WMD and terrorism?
BTW, where are the WMD in Iraq?
Are the people of Libya better off today in terms of human rights and democracy?
What about Syria, are those people better off?
But I can tell you what (((EVERY ONE))) of these places has in common: Oil.
Funny how you pretend that this is “moral,” and for our “defense.”
No, you can’t create a defense argument, not even remotely reasonable. Just imaginary crap arguments. This is your argument: Russia is going to invade or attack NATO which has (((5 TIMES))) their military manpower before the war? 1.5 times their nukes, 15 times their military spending, 20 times the carriers, 4 times their population, 4 times their economic volume, more than 10 times their manufacturing base... Really??? LOL. Do you actually think about what you’re repeating and how ridiculous it is?
But then again, anyone doing these sort of things we are today has always pretended God is on their side and that they are defending themselves, from the Romans to the Ottomans, or these guys: https://www.gettysburgmuseumofhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/40DBA4E2-449F-4CF3-A45C-AE59F884B727-600x451.webp. Today it’s our turn.
I hope, and I’m NOT an isolationist nor pacifist, that we return to a more defensive posture and don’t let economic interests drive many of these decisions like has been the case for many years.
Politics, Congress is essentially for sale. In a democratic system political parties and campaigns cost money. Politicians and their families what to get rich. It’s that way everywhere...
But when you are an unparalleled super power like we are and no one can challenge you, when you can act with impunity and learn you can use this military force to get whatever you want really quickly, guess what can happen?
Cheering for Russia?!
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No, just acknowledging the fact Russia isn’t just a “ gas station”. Their intelligence, military, manufacturing sector and technology prove they are not what the Western MSM wants us to believe….they are a major super power, and should be negotiated with and respected accordingly.
Our western war cheerleaders will have you believe they are still the weak, long gone Soviet Union. They aren’t, as we are witnessing.
Why would I listen to an idiot like you when you start by telling me “YOU pushed NATO expansion”.
No one has expanded NATO more than your poor victim, Vladimir Putin.
And in your long diatribe, did you include a statement of SUPPORT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!
Why should any conservative listen to an anti Trump Democrat like you?
Support Trump.
All Hail Russia!
BTW the Russian economy is tiny, and it’s population is shrinking.
The military is obviously sub par, except for having nuclear weapons.
Why the wet dreams for Russia?
Support Trump. Simple enough.
“Cheering for Russia?!”
You have to ask?
Delta7 is pure Putin propaganda.
He has relatives living in Russia.
First president, that openly talks about issues that are important. He is not afraid to speak the truth. How refreshing.
As for Russia, I hold no special regard for the nation, but it is not the Soviet Union, anymore than Germany resembles the Nazi regime. Your problem, is you still see the Soviet Union * Putin as Stalin.
You are not an astute person when it comes to geopolitical realities, so do not lecture me about Russia. They are not perfect, but neither are we. We have become bullies, and we were trending towards tyranny, and we are not out of the woods either. Trump has behaved as a strong forceful leader, who is not ashamed to put this nation first. So refreshing to be sure.
Ukraine is just as corrupt as Russia is, and that is why they were not really interested in making them a NATO nation.
You need to take your blinders off, and start paying very close attention to reality, because reality will bite your backside if you ignore it.
Once again, president Trump is in office and he is handling our policy toward ukraine. So then what are you complaining about? And as for russia, you understand it zero. Stop lecturing other people that they aren’t astute when you have no idea who you are talking to.
Thank you. It’s nice to see someone call out the abuse for what it is.
He started this whole discussion by posting about Russia blowing up NATO cargo planes. Ok fair enough if accurate.
But with the post he attacked other Freepers before anyone had said a word!
Then some of the more notable thugs joined in.
As for the people who are sincere with their isolationism and all about how NATO “forced” Putin to invade, Sadly they drank the kool aid that Tucker Carlson was serving by the barrel.
Nobody forces a superpower to spend three long years trying to destroy another country, and nobody was threatening one inch of Russia.
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