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Political Junkie’s Advanced AI Review of the Federal Circuit Court’s Rejection of President Trump’s Tariffs
Perplexity Pro AI and My Questions | September 4, 2025 | Political Junkie Too

Posted on 09/04/2025 3:19:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too

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Based on this analysis, President Trump should argue that the "necessary and proper" clause gives Congress the power to delegate its tariff powers to the President in the context of his foreign diplomacy power to make international trade decisions, and that the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) act does just that.

He should argue that the Federal Circuit Court was too narrow in its interpretation of the statute from only a domestic policy framework and failed to consider it in the Presiden't foreign affairs context.

-PJ

1 posted on 09/04/2025 3:19:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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Sorry PJ, did not read all that. Did you ask it how many times the POTUS or Congress interpreted the word “regulate” to mean “tax”?

If government bodies have used “regulate” to include tax, than the exclusion of the words tax, duties, etc in the Act is irrelevant. Custom and practice says regulate can include taxation.


2 posted on 09/04/2025 3:39:40 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine
It's in there on its own.

-PJ

3 posted on 09/04/2025 3:49:33 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

An excellent discourse.
I sent it along to some FRens.


4 posted on 09/04/2025 3:52:40 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (There are no more conspiracy theories, only questions that further the truth.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Thanks.

-PJ

5 posted on 09/04/2025 4:31:36 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Really informative. I learned a lot. Super job in formulating your questions.


6 posted on 09/04/2025 4:45:38 PM PDT by ggboss (Vote them out)
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To: ggboss
Super job in formulating your questions.

Thanks.

When working with AIs, asking open-ended questions with follow-up elicits much more information, especially when using an AI that has a research mode and contextual memory.

-PJ

7 posted on 09/04/2025 4:51:19 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; Political Junkie Too

My kind of reading! Thanks for sending.

Now what would activist Judge Bores-Berg, whatever, do with this?

Much to be said for spoon fed Education!
Lack of any, at all, is proof all around us and around the world.

We think the well educated are comedy.

Awesome reading!

God bless America.


8 posted on 09/04/2025 5:26:20 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. For Greater Glory. )
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To: Political Junkie Too

People were trying to figure out if anyone had won the latest Powerball. Hours after drawing it was still showing pending. Someone asked Grok and Grok said no one had won. Poster called it out and said it was a liar because it couldn’t know yet

It did. No one won.


9 posted on 09/04/2025 6:17:37 PM PDT by RummyChick ( )
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To: Political Junkie Too

“necessary and proper” clause of the Constitution.

Where is this clause?


10 posted on 09/04/2025 7:20:42 PM PDT by spintreebob
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Re Slaughter, the Court found that a prior Supreme Court ruling expressly upholding the for cause requirement to fire an FTC Commissioner was binding on the DC Circuit Court.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26080986-slaughtertrumpcadcord090225/

United States Court of Appeals
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
____________
No. 25-5261 September Term, 2025
1:25-cv-00909-LLA
Filed On: September 2, 2025

Rebecca Kelly Slaughter, in her official and
personal capacities and Alvaro M. Bedoya, in
his official and personal capacities,
Appellees

v.

Donald J. Trump, in his official capacity as
President of the United States, et al.,
Appellants

BEFORE: Millett, Pillard, and Rao*, Circuit Judges

O R D E R

Upon consideration of the emergency motion for stay pending appeal, the response thereto, and the reply; and the motion to expedite the appeal and the response thereto, it is

ORDERED that the administrative stay entered on July 21, 2025, be dissolved. It is

FURTHER ORDERED that the motion for stay pending appeal be denied. It is

FURTHER ORDERED that the motion to expedite the appeal be denied.

Appellee’s claims with respect to irreparable harm and to the public interest in a fully constituted Federal Trade Commission are rendered moot by the dissolution of the administrative stay and the denial of appellants’ motion for stay pending appeal.

Appellee’s remaining arguments do not justify expedition of this appeal.

* A statement by Circuit Judge Rao dissenting from the denial of a stay is attached.

President Trump fired Federal Trade Commissioner Rebecca Slaughter without cause. The district court ordered her reinstatement. The government now seeks a stay of that decision pending appeal. That motion must be denied. The government has no likelihood of success on appeal given controlling and directly on point Supreme Court precedent. Specifically, ninety years ago, a unanimous Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Federal Trade Commission Act’s for-cause removal protection for Federal Trade Commissioners. See Humphrey’s Executor v. United States, 295 U.S. 602 (1935). Over the ensuing decades—and fully informed of the substantial executive power exercised by the Commission—the Supreme Court has repeatedly and expressly left Humphrey’s Executor in place, and so precluded Presidents from removing Commissioners at will. Then just four months ago, the Supreme Court stated that adherence to extant precedent like Humphrey’s Executor controls in resolving stay motions.

To grant a stay would be to defy the Supreme Court's decisions that bind our judgments. That we will not do.

At the link is the full opinion of the Court and the dissenting opinion.

11 posted on 09/04/2025 7:31:53 PM PDT by woodpusher
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“necessary and proper” clause of the Constitution. Where is this clause?

Article I Section 8 (last clause):

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

-PJ

12 posted on 09/04/2025 7:32:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: woodpusher
I think you posted this to the wrong thread. Please report abuse and ask the moderators to delete it from this thread and repost it to the proper thread with the post you are responding to.

-PJ

13 posted on 09/04/2025 7:34:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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THunderous Applause, PJ !!

I’ll read it in detail over the weekend, but throwing in the tariff as foreign policy, not merely as “tax” is a master stroke.

Send this to Trump’s people.


14 posted on 09/04/2025 8:56:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Thanks!

Send this to Trump’s people.

I don't have access to "Trump's people," but I do hope that someone over there reads these threads.

-PJ

15 posted on 09/04/2025 9:29:21 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too
Insomniac bump.

-PJ

16 posted on 09/05/2025 12:14:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: sauropod

Review


17 posted on 09/05/2025 4:13:39 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: Political Junkie Too

Have you posted this over on X? It so, can you share your handle. I want to follow you! It must be shared.

I could copy and paste but feel like I am stealing your hard work and information.


18 posted on 09/05/2025 5:57:19 AM PDT by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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To: Political Junkie Too

FReepmail


19 posted on 09/05/2025 8:16:29 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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I do not have any social media accounts, as I strive to minimize my internet presence.

I suppose you could post it on X and and cross-link to this thread here.

-PJ

20 posted on 09/05/2025 9:14:44 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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