China Seems ‘Locked and Loaded’ to Sink Navy Aircraft Carriers

National Security Journal ^ | 8/31/2025 | Harry Kazianis

[whyilovetexas111]

China is not planning to launch one or two missiles at an aircraft carrier; it is planning to launch dozens, if not hundreds. The PLARF possesses the largest and most diverse missile arsenal in the world, with thousands of launchers. In a conflict, they would unleash a massive, coordinated salvo attack designed to overwhelm any defense.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarriers; china; spam; usnavy; vikingkitties; whuilovecrack; whyiloveblogpimps111

[ckilmer]

For instance, imports from China were being slowly replaced by those from Taiwan, Vietnam, and India over the last few years.
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The US tarriff negotiations with Taiwan vietnam india and everyone else cut off this avenue of chinese exports to the USA. no more third party transhipments.

You’re also reading in the news that the duty free import of items valued less than $800 has now been shut down.

The result is that a worldwide seize up of packaging to the USA.

The problem with your arguement is that the US is the best place to do business and sell stuff in the world.

The USA has been the sweet spot of the world because 80 years after the end of WWII the USA still allowed people to enrich themselves by maintaining uneven import export relations with the USA that did NOT favor the USA. Trump straightened that out.

It is a very big deal. There is now a chance that the USA will dig itself out of the huge financial hole we’ve dug ourselves into for the last 30-40 years.

[ealgeone]

But if we launch nukes China will launch as well.

[ealgeone]

Then they take out Hoover Dam.

[blitz128]

Doubt it would take that much, just a couple of cruise missiles

Meanwhile China is not in that great of shape economically and demographically, or for that matter water and food.

Remove export income and I think they are toast

[ealgeone]

Actually, the Kamikazies were fairly successful sinking around 40 and damaging 350 or so...not accounting for men who were killed or wounded.It forced us to make some adjustments.

Japan didn't have enough planes to be truly successful as they were holding these for the potential invasion of Japan.

Glad we didn't have to contend with those.

If we consider how many SAMS a CBG carries it's a fairly simple math equation.

We have to be 100% successful in shooting down each missile which may or may not have a warhead of some type.

IIRC it's around 400 SAMS.

This does not include the possibility of any laser defenses which I don't know if we've deployed those at this point.

[central_va]

YAAACT Yet another anti air craft carrier thread.

[Williams]

What China hopes is to overwhelm our conventional forces and hope the conflict doesn’t go nuclear.

It’s not a terrible bet, which is why we need to maintain conventional superiority but we don’t seem committed to that.

IMHO the Chinese are ruthless and are likely to use nukes as well with their initial attack.

They want a quick knock out, like the Japanese tried for.

Are we committed to an all out war?

As for the carriers, I suspect we intend to keep them back from the main theater until they can operate safely there.

There was a communist Chinese production on CBS Morning News the other day, OPPOSING our renovation of the airfield on Tinian Island, from which we bombed the Japanese in to oblivion.

Having been to Tinian recently and understanding what’s going on in the region, it’s history and strategic position, I found the CBS report outright frightening as anti US military propaganda.

[faithhopecharity]

air craft carriers are such obvious targets that (I am advised, with no insider info) that our navy has certain defensive measures in place that they believe will be effective

hopefully so

[central_va]

Figures you shop at traitor freight.

[null and void]

And they’ll stop after that, right?

Maybe.

But knowing that everything downstream of any dam will be washed into the China sea might give them pause to avoid starting a kinetic conflict.

[central_va]

You get one surprise attack per war.

[spokeshave]

You sink a carrier, we take out the Three Gorges Dam with ICBMs.

And downstream of the 3G dam is a group of nuclear power stations.

Not only that...but if the 3G dam pops a gasket downstream flooding will take out a huge swath of agricultural land

Big time starvation imminent.

The basic problem with the 3G dam is that it is silting up...all sorts of debris floating down...trees....cars...parts of houses...complete houses...all piling up against the 3G dam wall.

[central_va]

The Navy can take care of itself and it doesn’t need the AF to blow up dams.

[In_Iowa_not_from]

the US is the best place to do business and sell stuff in the world.

Because the USD is the world's reserve currency.

You’re also reading in the news that the duty free import of items valued less than $800 has now been shut down.

Which will kneecap the economies of America and its allies. Vietnam, Kazakhstan, Tuvalu, etc were being used for chicom transshipments. S. Korea, Japan, Germany, Taiwan, Australia, etc were NOT being used to sneak in Chicom goods or Chicom fentanil. Yet Trump cut off duty free imports from them.

The fact of the matter is that Trump only sees one American ally-- Israel. The only reason that he treats China slightly worse than Japan or S. Korea is because of his OBSESSION with the balance of trade. He doesn't divide the world into democracy vs communism or Christian vs atheist. To him, it's America vs foreigners.

[Frank Drebin]

If you listen carefully, that something has a really thick Chinese accent.

[In_Iowa_not_from]

Figures you shop at traitor freight.

So, how have Trump's tariffs affected the factory where you work? Is production slowing down or has it ramped up to keep up with the increasing orders?

[CIB-173RDABN]

We have to be 100% successful in shooting down each missile which may or may not have a warhead of some type.
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I think you missed my point. I agree, that under certain conditions one nation could fire enough missiles at a air craft carrier and take it out, but then what?

That would not end a war. The United States has enough assets to destroy China without ever getting within a thousand miles to the main land.

China is an undeveloped nation pretending to be a developed nation. Attacking one of of our air craft carriers would be Pearl Harbor part 2 only China would not enter the war with battle tested military and the US would not be a peaceful nation with very little military capabilities.

So yes, an air craft carrier can be sunk, but at what cost to the enemy?

[flamberge]

How do the drones get to the aircraft carriers?

"Drones" don't get there. Guided missiles get there.

You launch 1000 of them with guidance that makes their final approach from three or even four directions. Some will always get through. The rest use up the ships anti-missile defenses.

Then you launch 20 nuclear-tipped missiles at the survivors. The carrier group is mostly out of anti-missiles by then. That is the end of the aircraft carrier.

Variations of this have been war-gamed several times and the carrier group always loses unless the referees are instructed to cheat. The scenario works with attack drone boats too.

The key is to get off an initial salvo of attacks with time-on-target of very short time frame (minutes). That is hard to do but does not require superior technology. It does not even require nuclear weapons.

"Quantity has a quality all its' own".

[central_va]

I am pro American worker. OTH you are a consuming insect.

[central_va]

I am pro American worker. OTH you are a consuming insect.