Posted on 07/23/2025 10:24:05 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
The U.S. Army has officially canceled the M10 Booker armored vehicle program as part of a major acquisition reform initiative. The decision was driven by a strategic shift away from counter-insurgency towards preparing for high-intensity peer conflict, a role for which the M10 was ill-suited. The vehicle failed on multiple fronts: it became too heavy for air deployment, was no longer cost-effective, and could not be adapted for future battlefields.
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How else are we going to kill Russians?
The war in Ukraine is still hot. Why aren't you there?
Pentagon Wars 2.0
I wonder if they did a vaporifics test on it?
whyilovetexas111 wrote: “Maybe we don’t even need tanks anymore?”
If this is a shift towards a high peer conflict then that implies more need for heavy vehicles like tanks.
All the Special High Intensity Training could not save it...................
Go watch some drones taking out tanks vids from Ukraine. Get back to us.
With people inside them, they are basically coffins waiting to be destroyed by drones or guided missiles.
Hire some kids in Nevada to control them remotely and they could be a more effective weapon and since there would be no need to make them habitable, cost savings could be made and their range could be vastly improved.
There is arguably still no better tank out there and it's hard to improve on the M1 with a new clean sheet design.
Upgrading M1 systems at overhaul still makes a lot more sense.
That’s the point - the M-10 isn’t a tank, though it weighs as much as one and is too large to be used in the manner planned.
For those unfamiliar with military euphemisms, from our robot Overlord:
High-intensity peer conflict refers to severe disagreements or disputes between individuals, often characterized by strong emotions and aggressive behaviors. This type of conflict can disrupt relationships and environments, making resolution challenging without effective communication and conflict management strategies. I am learning humor from you meatbags.
IOW, social work.
too heavy for air deployment, was no longer cost-effective, and could not be adapted for future battlefields.
The growth of drone warfare has made heavy tanks into coffins. Both team Russia and team Ukraine have found this out. So this requires some new thinking about armor.
The Bradley seems to be still popular, because of its speed and ability to get in and out quickly, and its crew survivability when hit. But heavier tanks are more and more held back from the line because they are just targets for drones. At least that’s how it looks to my untrained eyes.
Out of the 31 Abrams tanks we gave the Ukraine, four (at last count) remain operational.
At least one or two are in red square.
A little less jargon and a little more English; what is high peer conflict?
Named for “Spartacus” Booker?
Cause I like irritating the FRussians here, silly.
An Army spokesperson said the service will not stop low-rate production abruptly. “There are a number of M10 Bookers currently in final stages of production that will be accepted by the Army,” the spokesperson said in a statement to Defense News.
The Army has 26 Booker production vehicles on hand, the spokesperson said. “The final number of M10 Bookers will be determined once those that are in final stages of completion are accepted by the Army.”
The governemt already has 26 and will buy whatever they have already started building.
The original concept was a light tank that could be air dropped.
As time went on and they kept adding desired capabilities to the tank it became a medium tank that was too heavy to be air dropped.
Air drop was a mission critical criteria so end the program.
Thanks for the English. So give actual tanks to individuals who disagree on something? Sounds like a democrat party platform item.
How many because of enemy engagement, and how many from lack of logistics?
Most people are unaware of the enormous logistical overhead required by modern military platforms.
It tales an army to support an army.
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