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Posted on 06/25/2025 6:29:57 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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The Iranians in power now know that:
1.) We don't have any problems doing this again if they restart their nuke program.
2.) They can build and build with the knowledge that they could be squished like bugs at any instant. Forevermore buried in the dark under tons of rock. Never to be found again. Kind of takes the fun out of working as a nuclear scientist in their cavernous labs, a mile underground.
3.) There's a Sisyphus factor involved; we have kind of taken all the fun out of them as a people and nation, building their rah-rah nukes.
4.) Plus their MO is to do cowardly surprise attacks on soft targets, using non-nukes. The whole world hates their guts for doing this for the past 50 years. They really don't gain much by changing tactics and insisting on having nukes.
5.) MAD is still the operative doctrine in force on planet Earth, and it has proven itself for 80 years. Nobody wants to use nukes because they in turn will get nuked by the rest of the world. Plus they will have to listen to the whining tree-huggers for decades. This applies to Iran too.
Could this be true?
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Maybe - but it is all the other secret sites that should be worrisome.
“The underground facility is thought to consist of two main tunnels that house centrifuges used to enrich uranium, as well as a network of smaller tunnels.”
only exterior pictures:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-868e3c3d-25ec-43cb-bcc0-8832464b91ca
Centrifuges in tunnels would be highly vulnerable.
If you assert the U.S. strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites at Fordo, Natanz and Isfahan were taken exclusively to remove the capacity of Iran to create a nuclear weapon, you likely missing a key point. However, if you recognize the strikes were not only about eliminating Iran’s nuclear capacity but also about taking Israel’s “Iran has nukes!” card off the table, then you begin to understand the after action message from the Trump administration.
Essentially, by removing the Iran nuclear threat, the overall influence from Israel on President Trump’s foreign policy objective is also lessened. Within that dynamic you will see why President Trump, Secretary/NSA Rubio and the inner national security circle are so strongly emphasizing the “totally destroyed” message.
WATCH (via YouTube):
Rubio: Iran has 'less capacity' to produce nuclear weapon post US strike
The inverse of the successful Iran strike narrative is also true. If the strikes against Iran are defined as not eliminating the nuclear threat, then a continuance of national security influence on behalf of Israel is maintained.
Unfortunately, for the deepest part of the U.S. intelligence apparatus, maintaining the usefulness of the Iran nuclear threat is aligned with their interests. Hence, we begin to see why the intelligence apparatus immediately began trying to diminish the effectiveness of the strikes with leaks to CNN [SEE HERE].
Through strategically motivated leaks from within the intel apparatus CNN Reported:
“The US military strikes on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities last weekend did not destroy the core components of the country’s nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early US intelligence assessment that was described by seven people briefed on it.
The assessment, which has not been previously reported, was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s intelligence arm. It is based on a battle damage assessment conducted by US Central Command in the aftermath of the US strikes, one of the sources said.” [link]
With this critical conflict in mind, now you begin to understand the severity of the intelligence community moves against DNI Tulsi Gabbard. Those attacks against DNI Gabbard began earlier this month when she started to take intelligence operatives out of their positions of influence [Document Here]
As an uncontrolled Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard is a threat to those interests deep inside our government who weaponize intelligence information in order to control foreign policy outcomes.
To grasp the extent of the problems this weaponized intelligence represents, we must remember how the intelligence and foreign policy establishment work through their media aligned operatives to keep President Donald Trump inside a box as it relates to his relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The foreign policy embeds, which includes the CIA, always want to retain control of outcomes and they will do anything to maintain their influence.
Having previously used the restaurant analogy to describe the State Dept and CIA operations; as this situation continues to unfold there is very strong data aligning that shows Israeli intelligence is much more than just a table in the CIA kitchen.
Because this data alignment is now significant, we cannot dismiss reports outlining that CIA Director John Ratcliffe used raw, unvetted Israeli intelligence to advise President Trump about the Iranian nuclear status [SEE HERE].
In fact, the timing of the deep state attacks against DNI Tulsi Gabbard align perfectly with the sourcing conflicts in briefing material.
Big Picture Dynamic – The essential concern is that CIA Director John Ratcliffe was using raw Israeli intelligence to tell President Trump Iran was only a few days away from a nuclear weapon, whereas DNI Tulsi Gabbard would be looking at U.S. intelligence that was not slanted toward achieving the immediate objectives of Israel.
The intelligence conflict plays out differently in the media as the deep state pushes a personality narrative, while Israel-First embeds freeze DNI Gabbard out of the actionable influence. There is a lot of Machiavellian nuance inside this game of power and control and none of it is good. President Trump is bombarded with “who are you going to believe” type questions, and that is exactly what we saw play out.
Yes, the overall concern about Iran having nuclear weapons is first and foremost. As evidenced in the perspectives and action by President Trump trump, this larger issue dynamic ultimately determined his approach – REMOVE THE THREAT.
In the aftermath of “Operation Midnight Hammer” President Trump wants to move on to other affairs of large consequence to his domestic and foreign policy objectives. However, those objectives are not in alignment with what DC and the Intelligence Community want to see done.
The Intelligence Community (IC) want President Trump back in the control box reacting only to their interests in the manner they construct for him to react. This is why the IC are pushing a narrative that Operation Midnight Hammer did not destroy the Iran nuclear threat; and President Trump is forcefully refusing to go back into the control box by saying Operation Midnight Hammer was a resounding success.
This is the context, the control battle that is taking place in the headlines, and every element is connected to this larger dynamic.
Without too much question the CIA and Israeli intelligence network have such a symbiotic relationship it is almost impossible to tell them apart. The goals, objectives and priorities of the CIA are the goals, objectives and priorities of Israel. Watch closely with clear eyes and you will easily see this dynamic.
Today, “Iran’s parliament has passed a bill halting cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).” The measure will bar IAEA inspectors from accessing Iran until the security of its nuclear facilities is ensured. [link] This is a move that assists President Trump not getting pulled back into the global intelligence control box. It is a move by Iran that I fully support because it aligns with America First interests.
As former Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), current Secretary of State and National Security Advisor Marco Rubio knows every element in this IC construct. Rubio’s first move was to dissolve USAID, remember that.
Set aside the question of when that footage was taken and ask another question. How does anyone know that they were removing nuclear material to take elsewhere? Might they not have been bringing it to Fordow with the belief that that was the only place it would safe from attack?
Disagree!
Since its a religious motivation all setbacks can be assigned to “Divine Will”. Someone did something sinful so they’re all to be punished, Allah is testing them, etc. Remember they’re true believing 12’er Shia all actions taken are necessary to bring the 12th Inman into the world. (Supposedly he’s in occultation in Qom!) You can not apply Western notions of rational actors to this. Poly Sci Game Theory does not work! I think Trump is doing that and its a classic mistake that all make when dealing with Islamic fanaticism.
This shows a diagram the Israelis claimed is of Fordow:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-22/inside-iran-fordow-nuclear-bunker-bombed-by-us/105446636
The diagram is also shown superimposed on exterior pictures of the complex.
Iran did not know that, Russia did not know that, China did not know that, NATO did not know that, never tried before in history of world in 5 billion years to demolish a mountain. Only Trump has the balls to try it. No president before him had the courage.
Interesting sources.
“How does anyone know that they were removing nuclear material to take elsewhere?”
“Might they not have been bringing it to Fordow with the belief that that was the only place it would safe from attack?”
Trump was pretty confident the US military could take Fordow out. Would it not be better to dig holes in an area the size of Texas and bury the stuff where the US and Israel would not even know where?
What would you have done?
I stated this on FR before the attack:
“The U-235 for at least one bomb and hundreds of centrifuges for enrichment to bomb grade have probably been hidden in places the US doesn’t know where to hit.”
“At this point, the U-235 is probably no longer in gaseous form, but solidified and hidden away in an area the size of Texas.”
More likely than not...sonar type readings and/or richter readings
Or they could have gone to the surface and found it covered with U235.
Not sure how detectable that is by satellite or any other means besides physically taking a soil sample. U235 is not a particularly a strong gamma or Alpha particle source when disbursed.
Anything is possible. But from what we know, Israel has spies all over. If the Iranians did move some dangerous stuff they have to wonder if it is going to be hit in the next two minutes.
It is hard to believe they want to go to war again right now with Bibi and President Trump in office.
(Note: Israel's spies, or spy handlers, did fail big time October 7 but that seems to have been an anomaly.)
Someone would have told if it was moved en masse.
They can’t even hide nuclear scientists. I doubt they could hide convoys of trucks holding radioactive materials.
How did they get in, repel down the 300 foot crater?
Let's be real....We are NOT entitled to know everything.
I'm sure there is/was a way to show before and after.
Interesting link. Smart design.
I saw Mossad at the donut shop in Iowa
As an aside, people have already forgotten the 4:00AM Oct. 7 intelligence and IDF meeting that considered impending Hamas action but didn’t tell the Defense Minister or the PM office. They were looking to embarrass Netanyahu.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/400372
His answer was absolute..."Yes".
Please look at the clip I am about to post.
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