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Well, that alliance isn't so strong after all...
1 posted on 06/18/2025 9:03:00 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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To: whyilovetexas111

Worst pilots on the planet. 200+ hours for soloing, some 400!


2 posted on 06/18/2025 9:05:37 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: whyilovetexas111

Article title appears to be transliteration from Russian...

Or YodaSpeak


3 posted on 06/18/2025 9:08:50 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Iran and Russia made a deal last year for Iran to “build* SU-30 and -35s. Delivery of existing ones was rumored but never seen. Russia is in a hot war and needs them.


5 posted on 06/18/2025 9:13:42 AM PDT by jjotto ("...saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,ย And I hated Esau...")
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To: whyilovetexas111

Iran never received these fighters. They were built for Egypt, but Egypt backed out of the sale and bought Rafale’s. It would be no surprise if these jets that have been in storage since 2021, are not flyable, and they might well have been cannibalized to to keep Russian Sukhois flying.


6 posted on 06/18/2025 9:24:18 AM PDT by ETCM (โ€œThere is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.โ€ โ€” Ronald Reagan)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Are these the planes whose wings fall off mid-flight?


7 posted on 06/18/2025 9:24:54 AM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: whyilovetexas111
Pretty scary looking Iranian Jet


8 posted on 06/18/2025 9:26:16 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: whyilovetexas111
Maybe their pilots remembered the old adage:

Sometimes, it is best to run away and live to fight another day.


9 posted on 06/18/2025 9:29:11 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Probably being used in Ukraine.


12 posted on 06/18/2025 9:35:49 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Iran has no radar or air defense so the war is basically over. Israel can hit whatever it wants whenever. Every missile launch is the launcher’s last.


13 posted on 06/18/2025 9:36:16 AM PDT by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

There seems to be a misunderstanding about what the Iranian AF is for.

Internal ‘security’, border and sea lane intimidation, and propaganda imagery.

Not fighting - that might lead to unnecessary aircraft loss.

Being totally serious here.


14 posted on 06/18/2025 9:36:51 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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Air forces are integrated systems these days.

The fighters themselves are impressive. But without AWACS support and ground radar they are on their own. The F35s are networked with each other, creating a great picture of the situation.

Iran doesn’t have the pieces.


15 posted on 06/18/2025 9:41:25 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: whyilovetexas111

Who wrote that headline?


17 posted on 06/18/2025 10:02:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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I thought I saw a blurb Friday afternoon that Israel had shot down eight Iranian planes


18 posted on 06/18/2025 10:06:30 AM PDT by montag813
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To: whyilovetexas111

Even if they got a few they probably can’t fly em. You don’t just jump out of a Tomcat or a Phantom into the Millennial Falcon. ๐Ÿ˜†


19 posted on 06/18/2025 10:06:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Iranian jets are for murdering Iranian villagers, not for facing a competent enemy.


23 posted on 06/18/2025 10:29:10 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: whyilovetexas111

I have the feeling that the regular Iranian air force (or any other unit) wants to die for the mullahs.


26 posted on 06/18/2025 10:53:18 AM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: whyilovetexas111; Red Badger

Ping


27 posted on 06/18/2025 11:42:44 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: whyilovetexas111

Who wrote that title (I know it wasn’t you)?
Wow, English must not be their native language...


31 posted on 06/18/2025 1:31:48 PM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Because their countries are 1500km apart?


36 posted on 06/19/2025 12:07:56 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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Larson spent over 1,000 words and never explained why Iran is not using Su-35s. The reasons are simple. Ready?

Russia has delivered at most two Su-35s to Iran.
Israel has 45 F-35s and 240 F-15s and F-16.
The Iranian Air Force has demonstrated is only slightly more functional than South Africa's, which has less than a dozen working aircraft.
That was before Israel started Operation Rising Lion.

These are kind of really important details to not mention ๐Ÿค”.

But then, since according to whois.domaintools.com, the "National Security Journal" is a year old and full of writers who write about national security while never having worked in it, perhaps this is not too surprising. ๐Ÿ™„

38 posted on 06/19/2025 8:26:23 PM PDT by Widget Jr (9/11 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 7/7 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 11M ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ 26/11 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ 10/7 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ)
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