WHY I SUPPORT ISRAEL’S RECENT ACTIONS IN IRAN [Twitter post]

As a veteran who frequently rails against what I call “useless, endless wars,” I feel a duty to explain my seemingly contradictory position of supporting Israel’s recent kinetic actions in Iran.

First, by “useless, endless wars,” I am specifically referring to the expenditure of American blood and/or treasure in a war that ultimately does not serve the national security interests of the USA.

-Squandering American lives in a futile and unwinnable effort to transform a medieval society of deranged, violent goat herders and opium growers (who also practice actual slavery and bacha bāzī (Google it), and who have an utter disregard for human life) is a “useless, endless war.”

-Invading Iraq with zero plan to install a new government, and then dragging out a guerilla conflict for over a decade under the inept leadership of generals trained to fight the Soviet Union in the Fulda Gap, and then cutting and running when it was finally possible for strategic, pro-USA objectives to be achieved, is a “useless, endless war.”

-Sending billions of American taxpayer dollars to the steppes of Ukraine in an effort to interject NATO into a war between two corrupt oligarchies (in a conflict that has literally spanned thousands of years, on and off), while never promoting a single, meaningful strategic national security objective of the USA, while simultaneously increasing the chances of a humanity-destroying global, thermonuclear war is a “useless, endless war.”

So how are Israel's actions in blowing up Iran’s nuclear and command/control capabilities any different?

1. There are no American boots on the ground in Iran, nor are there likely to be. America’s only direct involvement in the conflict is to assist the Israelis with purely defensive, land- and sea-based missile/drone defense units and ships, in or near Israel.

2. America has been engaged in low-intensity military conflict with the Iranian regime continuously since 1979.

3. Iran has killed many American troops, and by that I mean MANY AMERICAN TROOPS. I vividly remember sitting in Iraq in 2003 as CNN and Democrat politicians assured us on satellite television that Iran was not supplying Iraqi insurgents, while LITERALLY AT THE EXACT SAME TIME AS THAT BROADCAST I was staring at cases of RPGs and 82mm mortar rounds we had just captured from Iraqi insurgents, all with Iranian Army markings on the wooden cases.

5. Iran has been working feverishly for years to produce nuclear weapons and has been absolutely unwilling to enter into any international agreement that would fully prevent them from gaining such capability. Specifically, they have been unwilling to accept an inspection regime that would fully prevent them from achieving nuclear capability.

6. Iran’s leadership has specifically and repeatedly pledged to use nuclear weapons on Israel. A nuclear war between Iran and Israel is in no one’s interest. Moreover, given Iran’s desire for “Death to America,” it is not unreasonable to assume that our nation would also be the target of an eventual nuclear attack, killing many millions of American citizens.

7. There is no “realpolitik” here. The Iranian mullahs cannot be reasoned with from a position of rational self-interest, as could even the Soviet Union in its heyday. Instead the Iranian government is solely motivated by a vision of Shia Islam forcibly dominating the world. Moreover, they believe that the “Twelfth Imam” (Google it) will someday come to usher in the end times. An apocalyptic religious death cult is not a group you want possessing nuclear weapons, plain and simple.

8. Israel’s attacks have been limited to military and nuclear targets. Unlike the unguided missiles randomly launched at civilians in Israel by Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah, Israel is not launching terror attacks against the civilian population in Iran.

9. There is a non-zero chance that Israel’s actions will result in an internal overthrow of the mullahs by peace-loving Persians, ending the threat this nation has represented to world peace since 1979, and helping Iran rejoin the family of nations.

In summary, Israel is putting its OWN BLOOD AND TREASURE on the line in a military effort that clearly and unequivocally serves the USA’s national interests.

Iran’s government (not its people) is a crazed long-term foe that is centered on apocalyptic religious zealotry and seeks capabilities that could literally end civilization.

Israel is doing the USA, the world and civilized peoples everywhere a huge favor by eliminating that risk, and it is bearing the cost almost exclusively by itself. Israel is putting its civilian population at risk as a worldwide public service, truly. (Don't believe me? Witness the Tel Aviv civilian apartment complex wrecked a few hours ago by unguided Iranian ballistic missiles.)

I salute Israel's actions, and I do so as a patriotic American veteran who hates war. Eradicating Iran’s nuclear capability and military command and control infrastructure is for the benefit of Israel, of course. But it is also to the great benefit of the USA and all of humanity. It’s not a “useless, endless war.”

If you are someone who despises Israel for whatever reason, I urge you to consider this conflict objectively, and realize what a great service Israel is doing for the USA.

From late yesterday at the tail end of a post. here was my effort to support Israel answering a post with Tucker Carlson calling the US ‘complicit’ with Israel as if a crime had been committed as opposed to perhaps actually saving our world. Link to the Tucker post at the end of this one.

The Cynical Publius effort is far superior to mine but I made a few points not otherwise covered in an effort to question antisemitism itself which runs rampant in the ‘modern world’.

To: marcusmaximus

Hey Tucker! The whole civilized world should be ‘complicit’ with Israel.

Wrote most of this earlier ... I’m just putting it here now to save it to put somewhere else. Maybe Tucker’s place. Poor Israel. One tiny sliver of land in a huge world but no room for them in too many people’s view.

Ummm ... Iran wants Israel completely destroyed and is working hard to get nukes on local nuclear-tipped missiles and working on ICBMs (Hello EU? US?) for more distant targets as well. These crazed Islamists hate Israel’s core existence and they promise it complete destruction.

Iran has paid proxies in Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. Iran started this war on October 7, 2023.

They’re the small satan and we’re the great satan. Death for both per leadership and crowd chants in Iran. Almost hypnotizing the way they do it.

For a great victory in Allah’s name they can justify anything.

Its a nutso 7th Century “religion” but its also considered a war plan FOR THE COMPLETE ISLAMIZATION OF THE WORLD. In case you hadn’t heard.

No nukes for Iran.

Now is the time. Overwhelming power.

“Nice Tehran place you got there, shame if something were to happen to it.”

Now just tell them we’re taking over all nuclear facilities
and emptying out everything or just destroy it in place and bury it. In cement maybe. Ask the experts.

They’ve got Oil (#4 or #5 in world proven reserves) and Tourism and can grow anything with lots of agricultural space - they just need water.

Leadership threatening imminent total annihilation of Israel?

What was that thing ... Never Again?

That’s the civilized world’s promise to Israel. Right?

I have to note the Pali supporters and by extension, Hamas.
Weird, they appear to be hugely anti-semitic.

A Hamas soldier differs from the large majority of Palis only in that they may have a gun and probably has orders from Hamas.

Oil and electricity - Iranian proven reserves estimated conservatively by ChatGPT to last two hundred years for the 93 million residents.

BTW, see I know the lingo even if I don’t post much.

Israel is leading and the world must follow and support them.

Israel has Hezbollah, Hamas and Iran on the run. The Abraham Accords is open to more signatories.

-———————————— ChatGPT (Edited for readability):

The Abraham Accords are a set of bilateral normalization agreements, brokered by the United States in 2020, that bring together Israel and several Arab or Muslim-majority countries under shared principles:

Recognition of Israel’s sovereignty

Opening full diplomatic relations (ambassadors, embassies, flights)

Cooperation in economics, tourism, security, technology, interfaith dialogue

A common goal of regional stability and countering radicalism

2017-2021.state.gov+10en.wikipedia.org+10uae-embassy.org+10
nypost.com

The name “Abraham” reflects a shared spiritual ancestor in Judaism and Islam*

*britannica.com.

✅ Current Members

Signed, ratified, and active:

United Arab Emirates – first normalization pact in August 2020
prismeinitiative.org+13en.wikipedia.org+13uae-embassy.org+13

Bahrain – followed in September 2020
thesecuritydistillery.org+7britannica.com+7uae-embassy.org+7

Morocco – December 2020
2017-2021.state.gov+12en.wikipedia.org+12standwithus.com+12

Sudan – agreement reached in 2020, officially signed in January 2021; still some political delays

Pre-existing (but independent) Israel peace treaties — not formally under “Abraham”:

Egypt (1979)

Jordan (1994)

➕ Potential New Members

Countries expressing interest or with strong prospects:

Saudi Arabia – frequently cited as the most significant potential addition. Talks have been ongoing, though progress is stalled by Palestinians’ status and Gaza tensions*
*reuters.com
. U.S. leadership has publicly called on Riyadh to join.

Syria – recent reports suggest the new Syrian leadership may be open, contingent on Golan Heights negotiations and cessation of Israeli strikes*

prismeinitiative.org+1nypost.com+1
.

Others discussed: Jordan and Yemen have been mentioned in policy discussions
uae-embassy.org+15linkedin.com+15reuters.com+15
; Oman maintains informal dialogue but no formal commitment
thetimes.co.uk
.

🌍 Why It Matters

Economic and tech links: Trade, tourism, investment, joint energy projects, digital collaboration
en.wikipedia.org+6uae-embassy.org+6en.wikipedia.org+6

Security alignment: Shared concerns around Iran, radicalism, and regional stability

Diplomatic ripple effects: Encourages deeper interfaith dialogue and societal exchanges (educational, cultural)

📅 Where It’s Headed Country Status Conditions/Challenges
Saudi Arabia Interested, under negotiation Palestinian issue, Gaza conditions stall progress*

*nypost.com+3en.wikipedia.org+3nypost.com+3

Syria Reportedly open Golan return, ceasefire with Israel needed

Jordan, Oman, Yemen Possible future members Oman cautious, Jordan closely linked to Palestinian peace

Other states Emerging interest Iraq, Egypt historically allied but have not engaged formally

Plus there’s a small number of nutso mullahs and other leaders as noted versus probably a high percentage of the rest of the Iranian population. Maybe they’d a appreciate a democracy and constitutional rights?

ChatGPT says 85% of the population says they’re “less religious” in the last 5 years with only a small percentage
claiming increased religiosity I guess.

No nuts with nukes I always say to anyone who’ll listen.

Oblivion or peace? Hard but easy choice.

If you asked me ...

Nuts with opposing opinions are welcome, of course. ;-)

Good luck world. End of post.

130 posted on 6/13/2025, 11:26:34 PM by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)

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