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Posted on 05/07/2025 10:23:03 AM PDT by zeestephen
In an era where fear sells faster than facts, a refreshing gust of sanity has arrived in the form of a new paper by Dr. Judith Curry and economist Harry DeAngelo...The paper dismantles, brick by shaky brick, the popular belief that humanity teeters on the edge of climate-induced extinction and that salvation lies in the urgent abandonment of fossil fuels.
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"Since the late 19th century, Earth's average temperature has increased by about 1.3°C… During the same period… there has been little or no detectable change in most types of extreme weather events."
I thought salvation rested on increased taxes.
EC
“Since the late 19th century, Earth’s average temperature has increased by about 1.3°C… During the same period… there has been little or no detectable change in most types of extreme weather events.”
My confidence that the average temperature of the earth was being measured accurately by uniformly calibrated instruments in the 19th century = 0.
While that is an accurate list, it is far being being total comprehensive. For energy is responsible for a long list of innovations that have improved the quality of life as well as, the longevity of life.
As someone with a 99th percentile understanding of Thermodynamics and thermometry, I am here to say your level of confidence is entirely appropriate. We didn’t have the ability to even determine a good average temperature for the entire Earth until the age of satellites.
That’s exactly what I was thinking - thanks for confirming my suspicions!
Humanity does, sort of, “teeter on the edge of extinction” because of the well-documented previous wide excursions in Earth surface temperatures. Another ice age would kill 90% of the human population, easily.
None of this, of course, has anything to do with “carbon”, “global warming”, or “fossil fuels”.
Right, of course, but temperatures have varied widely in both historic and geologic time, and they will presumably continue to do so.
I think you make a serious mistake when you banish links to "Watts Up With That" to the "Bloggers & Personal" category at Free Republic.
WUWT is the most visited Global Warming Skeptic website in the world - 567 million log-ins in 18 years - almost 2.7 million per month.
The WUWT Comment Section is completely dominated by highly informative and passionate conversations between scientists and engineers.
Finally, the issues discussed are hugely important for Government spending and Government prohibitions, two subjects that have high interest at Free Republic.
Thank you for considering this.
“Right, of course, but temperatures have varied widely in both historic and geologic time, and they will presumably continue to do so.”
No doubt - but it’s the alleged “trending” that’s used an excuse to cripple our economy, tax us to death, and control our every move.
And even today, I don’t think our average temperature mesaurement/calculation for the oceans is all that good. Too much volume/depth, too many thermoclines, not enough measuring points. Temperature is a point phenomenon, a function of space and time. Said symbolically
T = f(x,y,z,t)
Average temperature is a function of that, a whole bunch of them, and is inherently imprecise in any reasonably complex system. Which the Erf certainly qualifies as!
2nd zeestephen’s post.
Where is humblegunner when you need him?
OK, that’s funny right there! Lol
I remember the 1970s when there was plans to mine coal, spread it on the Ice Fields to increase heat absorption from the sun to stop THE COMING ICE AGE!
https://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/843652-scientists-wanted-pour-soot-over-arctic.html
From POPULAR SCIENCE, Feb 1980..
PS/What’s News ....
page 73
Changing the weather intentionally or otherwise weather modification..(Earth cooling vs Greenhouse effect)
“Do you suppose we can learn enough, soon enough, to pull off a balancing act with the CO2 blanket saving us from another ice age?”
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AND WE DID IT! STOPPED THE COMING ICE AGE IN IT’S TRACKS WITH CO2!
Now they are whining about Glo-BULL Warming due to CO2!
Judith Curry was the head of a physics department at Georgia Tech. Initially concerned about global warming, she began to notice how often the numbers didn’t add up. And being a good scientist, she went back over the data and the methodologies, and found that it was crap. After having spoken up about her skepticism, she was shunned and persecuted by the global warmists until she finally threw in the towel and retired. IDK the economist, but Curry is on our side.
That number is highly debatable. Earth is a very big place, and “averages” are meaningless. The manner in which the data are gathered from various places around the world is a provable joke. Satellites may be pinging back surface temps, but we still can’t trust Agenda-driven $cienti$t$ to provide complete data and not ignore & throw out anything that destroys their Fearmongering. My benchmark over time: James Bond movies from the 1960s to the 2000s with scenes from Venice, Italy. The water level has not changed.
Not Physics, but the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences.
Here’s her web site, which hosts “climate heretic” bloggers.
"Since the late 19th century, Earth's average temperature has increased by about 1.3°C..."
In this information age, when numbers like 1.3°C are thrown at us, it's questionable why such numbers aren't at least linked to a reasonable explanation how that number was derived.
In fact, contrast the 1.3°C increase in temperature based on data taken since LATE 19th century with the "Year Without a Summer" (1816; volcanic ash) earlier in that century.
Year Without a Summer
Also, not only have double-digit Fahrenheit temperature drops been recorded in the shadow paths of solar eclipses (where's that CO2?), note that the main reason that night-time temperatures typically stop dropping is sunrise (duh!).
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