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Without Privacy, the Second Amendment Fails
AmmoLand ^ | April 1, 2025 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/05/2025 6:58:37 AM PDT by marktwain

In the early republic, the right to keep and bear arms consisted of the right to own arms without a government registration of arms. No registration of arms was known in law until the late 19th century.

Much of the conflict over the right to keep and bear arms has become a conflict over privacy.  The most successful playbook in eliminating the right to own weapons in functioning democracies has been to create the power of governments to know what people have what weapons. The strategy has been this:

Claim governments can control crime by controlling who has access to weapons.

Claim to control access to weapons, governments have to know who has weapons.

Require registration of all legal weapons. Any weapons which are not registered are declared illegal.

Slowly or abruptly, such as “during an emergency” confiscate weapons, using the government registration lists.

Gradually teach future generations that having weapons is bad.

The claims of crime control are false. Criminals still get access to weapons, often much easier than law-abiding citizens can.  Crime has not decreased where gun registration has been implemented. It is the ordinary citizen who attempts to follow the law who is disarmed. Joyce Lee Malcolm documents this in the case of England and Wales.

One of the ways to disrupt this strategy is to prevent the government from registering weapons to individuals. Confiscation is much more difficult when lists of gun owners is not known. A bill has been introduced in the Florida House forbidding using Aritficial intelligence to detect concealed firearms. The bill is HB 491. Here is a summation.

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Part of the overall principle of the Second Amendment is the right to own arms without government mandated registration.
1 posted on 04/05/2025 6:58:37 AM PDT by marktwain
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2 posted on 04/05/2025 7:00:03 AM PDT by marktwain
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And Colorado is close to implementing this with SB25-003.


3 posted on 04/05/2025 7:03:55 AM PDT by grcuster
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Not long ago states required health professionals to ask patients if they owned firearms and had them in their houses. They did this under the guise of “medical prevention” claiming it was to help cut down on suicides for depressed people, but really it was an attempt to have perfectly normal people declared as “depressed” IF they owned guns, which would then give the state “the right” to step in and declare that the person was mentally unfit to have the right to own guns.

The rule ,asked about a few months till judges declared it unconstitutional adn an invasion of privacy


4 posted on 04/05/2025 7:05:18 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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To: marktwain

Amendment IV

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...”

my dictionary:

“secure...2. free from care or anxiety”


5 posted on 04/05/2025 7:08:28 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Amendment IV respecting background checks are possible.

I might give the gun dealer my Florida ID. The dealer might send off the first seven characters of the IDN. The state might send back a list of barred persons and their IDNs having those first seven characters. If my IDN is not on the list, the gun dealer could then conclude the sale.


6 posted on 04/05/2025 7:14:56 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Inventory your firearms and see which ones have a paper trail back to you.
I still wish I had those I bought before the 1968 gun control act was signed into law.
All gun crime was supposed to have ceased when LBJ signed it.

“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.”-— Lyndon Johnson signing the 1968 gun control act into law.

And Thomas J. Dodd, who wrote the 1968 gun control act using the 1938 Nazi Weapons Law as a pattern...

“No one can predict how many lives will be spared because of this bill, but, if the bloody record of our yesterdays is any measure, millions of future Americans will live to enjoy the promise of many peaceful tomorrows.

I am grateful to have had the opportunity to play a part in this great moment in our time.”— Thomas J. Dodd on passage of the 1968 Gun control act.

Satisfied? In stead they went to the next step in banning guns, then the next and next....When they thought they had banned A-s-s-sault Rifles they made a grab for single shot .50 Cal rifles. They will never be satisfied till they have all of them banned.


7 posted on 04/05/2025 7:20:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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No wonder that in 1941, just days before the Pearl Harbor attack, Congress reaffirmed Second Amendment rights and prohibited gun registration. In 1968, bills to register guns were debated, with opponents recalling the Nazi experience and supporters denying that the Nazis ever used registration records to confiscate guns. The bills were defeated, as every such proposal has been ever since, including recent “universal background check” bills.

The lies we have been told over the years...

1962 We ONLY want to register handguns. Rifles will not be affected!
1964, We ONLY want to register ALL firearms, not ban them.

1968 We ONLY want to register all guns, and ban the import of foreign Saturday Night Specials, and 5-shot bolt action army surplus rifles! (they got the ban).

1970, We ONLY want to ban small American handguns. Rifles will not be affected!

1976 We ONLY want to ban ALL handguns! Rifles will not be affected!

1981, Actress Lee Grant on Good Morning America (ABC) screams...”THE NRA IS A RIFLE ORGANIZATION! THEY SHOULD GIVE UP THEIR HANDGUNS AND THEY CAN KEEP THEIR RIFLES!”

1984, they came for the rifles.

1994..When they thought they had banned “As-s-s-ault rifles they did not shut off the lights and go home. they immediately went after their next target, .50 cal single shot rifles “THAT CAN TAKE DOWN AN AIRPLANE!”

They will never be satisfied till they have an unarmed population.

I had a a link on How the Nazis Used Gun Control! Alas it now leads to a “404. Page not found.”


8 posted on 04/05/2025 7:28:47 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Until quite a few years after throwing the Brits out it was illegal for any household to NOT be armed. Not just to be able to join a militia but to protect yourself.

Re-instate that requirement at the state level. Switzerland does it. Push back HARD on the anti-human gun arseholes.


9 posted on 04/05/2025 7:31:04 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/how-nazis-used-gun-control-stephen-p-halbrook/


10 posted on 04/05/2025 7:33:10 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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We have multiple states openly defying the Constitution/2A in implementing their gun control laws and yet the SCOTUS continues to refrain from taking these cases on. Hawaii flat out stated that they consider the state sovereign and does not recognize The United States Constitution as the law of the land, literally stating that there is right own and bear arms.

Wait for more states to make the same declaration about guns, abortion, immigration, crime, voting and whatever else they decide.

And WE are the threat to democracy???


11 posted on 04/05/2025 7:42:42 AM PDT by MCSETots
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500,000,000 guns.

When they start confiscating, CWII is immediately on.


12 posted on 04/05/2025 7:51:07 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam’s Strategy is Effective: Out-breed and murder everyone else. What to do?)
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Claim governments can control crime by controlling who has access to weapons.

We don't have a gun problem; we have a behavior problem.

13 posted on 04/05/2025 7:56:17 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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My tagline has been the same for many years - and obviously I agree with Weingarten on this issue (among many others).

The gun grabbers have been going insane on the “ghost gun” issue for years, and it is all about tracking every gun, all the time. Fortunately, tens of millions of guns are off paper because most states don’t even attempt to require a background check for a private sale (that’s the so-called “gun show loophole” that they’ve been screaming about for decades). The tyrants must be fought continuously, or else we are done as a free society.


14 posted on 04/05/2025 8:21:21 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Bob434

The other thing that stopped health professionals from asking utterly irrelevant questions about whether somebody on firearms or not is that it was pointed out to them that asking such questions was a “boundary violation,“ which would render their malpractice insurance invalid. Insurance companies are worried enough about ensuring doctors for actual malpractice, they were and are not at all interested in being responsible for whatever happens inside a non-doctors home with regard to the firearms that the doctor asked about. Basically, insurance companies have said that they will not ensure doctors who ask these kinds of questions.


15 posted on 04/05/2025 8:23:58 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Ihad a a link on How the Nazis Used Gun Control! Alas it now leads to a “404. Page not found.
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Try this: https://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/NaziLawEnglish.htm

JPFO has documented how Dodd had access to the Nazi Weapons Law of 1938, and that he had the Congressional Research Service translate it for him prior to the 1968 GCA, which he was instrumental in drafting. I know the guy who did a lot of translating for the JPFO book on this subject, as well as one regarding how every single genocide of the 20th century was preceded by gun control and confiscation.


16 posted on 04/05/2025 8:31:05 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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“A bill has been introduced in the Florida House forbidding using Aritficial intelligence to detect concealed firearms.”

The use of gun sniffing dogs needs to be banned as well.


17 posted on 04/05/2025 8:54:29 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Ancesthntr

JPFO has alot of Great Info...
Highly Recommended.
.
Jerusalem seemed to Have an Armed up
Military back in The Late ‘90s.
No telling what it’s like Now.
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Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.


18 posted on 04/05/2025 9:43:12 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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Breitbart ^ | 04/03/2025 | John Binder

“Buy American,” Bessent said bluntly. He also clarified that the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) exempts certain vehicles and parts from the new tariffs.
Collins attempted to raise concerns from U.S. allies, questioning what the administration would say to countries like South Korea and Japan, which are now facing increased tariffs.

Bessent’s response was direct: “Well, I would say they’ve been doing it to us for a long time. And, if they don’t like tariffs, then why do they have them?”

His answer underscored the administration’s stance that America has been on the losing end of trade deals for too long.

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19 posted on 04/05/2025 9:45:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If history teaches us anything: It's that history rarely teaches us anything! (outofsalt))
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To: Bob434

My PCP in NY did that and ironically, he owned guns and was an avid hunter. I noticed after a while the forms didn’t ask that any more but I never knew if he got push back for it (I assume he did) of the form changed because of that ruling.


20 posted on 04/05/2025 10:58:38 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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