Posted on 03/13/2025 10:55:04 PM PDT by ganeemead
Thank you, comrade.
Who is Mark Sleboda?
Drama Queen
Someday... we are going to miss all this propaganda, oops, I mean “analysis”. I wonder by now how many Uke, Russian, US, Brit, EU, and Oriental Youtube channels specialize in the Ukraine war.
There should be a spreadsheet or list.
Sensationalist
“Who is Mark Sleboda?”
Baseball hero for the 1969 Miracle Mets. Oh wait, that was Ron Swoboda...never minde.
Ukraine hasn’t changed much since.
In the immediate term, this looks good for Russia and terrible for Ukraine.
In the medium term, it simply confirms everything that Zelensky said to President Trump about Putin was true - POTUS blew up and said it was disrespectful, but now Moscow’s confirmed Z was right.
Buried beneath the disingenous agreement-in-principle from Putin, he is still sticking to the same impossible, unacceptable terms. He wants to weaken Ukraine and the US at the negotiating table, and is doing it by making POTUS pound sand. He’s saying that there won’t be peace this side of 2026 - even on Russia’s maximalist terms, let alone America’s.
So much for Trump getting a great deal in a few days or weeks.
If you drill through all the vranyo, this is what Russia wants EVEN BEFORE it’ll agree to a 30-day ceasefire.
- Mechanisms that’ll “completely dismantle” the current Ukrainian government, in place. That includes Russia’s demands for elections. The primary purpose of this demand is to ensure Russian interference guarantees the outcome.
(Putin wants to ensure his men win instead of how it went down in 2014, where Yanukovych’s own party as well as Azarov and others in government siding with the pro-Ukraine opposition in calling for his removal. Instead of getting a Lukashenko-lite president and a puppet government in Ukraine, Putin ended up with Poroshenko and a hostile Rada.)
- Vetoing any peacekeeping force with European or NATO troops - alongside Russia having a veto on where any peacekeepers come from (and, of course, like every other “red line”, there is zero reciprocity - Putin’s effectively saying, if Russia insists on having North Koreans or Wagner PMC as “peacekeepers”, Ukraine can’t say no.)
- A demilitarised zone in Ukraine, alongside no security guarantees for Ukraine, and with Ukrainan defense (in effect, leaving the defence of Ukraine practically weaponless, ensuring it could be overrun at the snap of Putin’s fingers.
- No NATO membership for Ukraine. This is the most daft one of all; whether or not retarded Americans have been bigging the prospect up for years, EU-NATO has gone as far as it possibly can to block Ukraine from joining, without violating the NATO charter open-door principle - which is, any country can apply to join, even Russia.
in 2022 Zelensky publicly conceded the NATO “open door” policy was closed to Ukraine to all intents and purposes AND he said Ukraine wouldn’t apply. Enough countries in NATO said they’d veto any application, making an application pointless.
So, Russia’s maximalist demands haven’t been watered down one drop despite losing a million soldiers and bringing the economy to the brink of collapse.
The only thing the White House can definitively say in response to that is, it’s now clear which side wants peace - Ukraine - and which one wants a generational hot war as well as a new cold war - Russia.
Two weeks ago, Russia had recovered 65% of the take...last week it was 80% and I think it’s pretty much over and Ukraine has gained nothing.
Here you are. The lone Putin supporter on this forum spamming us again. Why didn’t you get the zot?
I was thinking Petr Svoboda
It is good for Russia and bad for Ukraine
Can’t help it - you euros have had 80 years to get a credible defense program in
place and all you’ve done is bend over for the muslims and sub saharans.
If you don’t like what Trump is doing - strap a pair on and step up yourselves.
Who is this guy and why should I listen to him?
The US doesn’t “lose” anything.
Who cares if there’s an agreement or not?
I dont, as long as we aren’t send our money or men.
But you can send your whole pay check to help Ukraine if you want.
But not mine.
dp0622, you highlight an important point that a lot of the Slavi Ukraini types have not grasped, yet. Agreement, or not, the US, under Pres. Trump is disengaging from the financial debacle of our involvement in this mess. It's in the best interests of everybody, especially the Ukrainians and Russians stuck in the middle, that a peace agreement happen; stopping the killing and destruction. The governments of both warring parties do not care, along with the Globo-Pedo warmongers and people that have no direct skin in the game who cheer on the war from behind their keyboard. They are willing to fight to the last Ukrainian, Russian, and every other military aged male on the planet if need be. It is in the best interest of the US, and its people to get untangled from this mess, and it appears as though it's going to happen under Pres. Trump one way or another.
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