Posted on 02/16/2025 8:52:03 AM PST by PJ-Comix
My favorite part of J.D. Vance's COMMON SENSE (which was attacked as "controversial") Munich Security Conference speech was when he pointed out the ABSURDITY of recently overturning the Romanian presidential election result due to supposed interference from Russia via online ads. If this sounds familiar it is because in the wake of the 2016 U.S. election the media here went into panic mode over Russia having spent (GASP!) $100,000 worth of Facebook ads supposedly to influence the election. The Democrats and the media went full FAKE NEWS hysteria about RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA! despite the fact that $100,000 in Facebook ads is chump change as far as influencing elections go. Yet as a result we had to endure about three years of investigations which revealed, at the end of it, there was NO Trump-Russia collusion. Ooops!
BTW, it turns out that USAID bribe money was much more influential in Romania and than Russia ever was. Judges were bribed via USAID and media outlets were paid off in order to push the narrative that democracy must be saved in Romania by overturning its presidential election.
Finally, note the minimal applause received by Vance at the end of his statement about the Romanian elections? Most likely most of it came from the COMMON SENSE Hungarian delegates. However, as Europe comes to its senses in the future you can expect that applause for Vance at Munich Security Conferences in the years to come to be much louder due to more nations (Romania next?) electing COMMON SENSE leaders.
PING!
The Rats spent billions on campaign ads, yet they wanted people believe that $100k would turn an election.
If that’s the case they ought to hire the russkies that came up with such effective, powerful ads with so little money.
I think some minister in the German government PRAISED the overturning of the Romanian election and suggested they would do the same in Germany if they didn’t like the election results.
Russia put a LOT more effort into the 2016 election than a few Facebook ads. Russian bots were everywhere on social media.
But, most of the effort was not so much “Pro-Trump” as it was simply sowing chaos - a time honored Russian tactic. Even Obummer acknowledged the nature of the effort correctly.
*Pro-Trump wouldn’t even make sense. Trump advocated building up defense and focusing on deterring the big problems instead of getting overly tied up “forever” in places like Syria. Particularly in 2016, who were considered the “big” threats? Russia and China... ISIS was considered quite dangerous, but, it was also very clear ISIS could be easily overwhelmed, esp. if we co-opted the Kurds as our main ground force. We didn’t need to inject, say, 30k troops for 10+ years, plus a host of contractors.
Also “drill baby drill” would drive down world oil prices and Russian revenue. The best result for Russia would have been Hillary winning the electoral college, Trump winning the popular vote and a split Congress with Americans at each others’ throats for years.
My biggest problem with Vance’s speech was that it was off-focus. Working with Europe to have them pick up more of the load defending Europe is a REALLY big deal, dealing with that herd of cats is quite difficult, and requires enormous cooperation, a lot of work, and a lot of good will. Telling the Euros how to run their elections, so long as they aren’t mowing down the opposition by the hundreds or thousands with gunfire, really isn’t our business.
WE justifiably get pretty miffed when they tell us how to run our internal affairs, no?
If we want to have a discussion on freedom, call a summit, and point the finger at ourselves as much as them. There are plenty of our own faults to point at.
Likely, but there was no way Hillary would win the electoral vote and Trump the popular vote.
Now, Russian support of Dems in the mid-terms in 2018...
Correct on the oil prices.
Correct on the oil prices.
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